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bluewilde 08-09-2005 12:55 PM

AK preflop
 
Postflop plays itself, I believe, so...

is either pushing/calling villains pf reraise clearly superior? I thought about calling just because I have a strong chance of seeing a flop cheaply with good position. But then I decided this would let in too many callers. I have no idea what a minraise means, but I know the only hands I'm too worried about calling are AA and KK, both unlikely. Is my initial pf reraise about the right amount? I realize this is a very basic hand, just wanted a check-up.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (8 handed) converter

SB (t770)
BB (t770)
UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t725)
Hero (t800)
MP2 (t785)
CO (t640)
Button (t2710)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t90</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls t75, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t200</font>, Hero calls t110, BB calls t110.

Flop: (t607.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

UTG+1 bets 300, Hero is All-in (600), everyone calls

Turn: (a lot, basically three guys' stacks) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

River: (still a lot) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Final Pot: dunno why converter crashes on pot size when there's an all-in, think 2300ish

reecelights 08-09-2005 01:02 PM

Re: AK preflop
 
What's the buy-in?

I would tend to raise to 120 preflop, possibly 150. Should cut down on the number of callers and I think you'll get a slightly better idea of where you stand.

Maulik 08-09-2005 01:02 PM

Re: AK preflop
 
I like pushing or mucking. PF you've got 25% of your stack in if you call the re-raise. Again, its tough for top pair to be good with so much action and so many people entering the pot. Thus I like pushing to get this hand HU.

11t 08-09-2005 01:03 PM

Re: AK preflop
 
If you are calling preflop you are not folding this flop.

However I hate re-raising with AK like this early on. I also would be really hesitant to call preflop since I just had a guy raise on top of a raise and a re-raise.

Maulik 08-09-2005 01:03 PM

Re: AK preflop
 
I would tend to raise to 120 preflop, possibly 150. Should cut down on the number of callers and I think you'll get a slightly better idea of where you stand.

t120 maybe, t150 is too much. but this isn't what your thread asked about

reecelights 08-09-2005 01:05 PM

Re: AK preflop
 
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Is my initial pf reraise about the right amount?

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bluewilde 08-09-2005 01:06 PM

Re: AK preflop
 
Empire $11

Wes ManTooth 08-09-2005 01:11 PM

Re: AK preflop
 
I also like pushing or folding to the reraise. This also may change depending on how the reraiser has been playing, and this also depends on the what the buy in is.

N/M just saw the last post.

reecelights 08-09-2005 01:11 PM

Re: AK preflop
 
I memory serves correct, Empire is a Party skin?

I think any bet less than T100 here gets multiple callers in an $11 buy-in. This is something discussed in HOH where a bet of as much as T200 here is suggested.

If you bet 150 and inital raiser comes over the top you can then try to decide if he has AA or KK (which you doubt) or if you want a coinflip this early. I only raise to 90 if I have AA or KK here and plan on pushing any flop.

I agree that post-flop, the hand plays itself and you should push.

11t 08-09-2005 01:12 PM

Re: AK preflop
 
I think racalling preflop has a lot of validity in a low limit SNG non deep stacked SNG like this.

Raising puts yourself in this exact position which is what you DON'T want to be in.


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