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jkkkk 11-27-2005 11:03 AM

4-bet.... wtf.
 
No reads

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button ($200)
Hero ($208.05)
BB ($350.45)
UTG ($155.05)
MP1 ($203.80)
MP2 ($228.90)
CO ($73.69)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($6) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $30</font>, UTG pushes for $140ish more, Hero...

His range really does baffle me here.

missed lrr w/ AK?!

JJ, TT, QQ?! surely they just call the flop?

Thoughts?

soah 11-27-2005 11:08 AM

Re: 4-bet.... wtf.
 
Overbets on these boards are usually scared bets rather than signs of sheer strength.

Hattifnatt 11-27-2005 11:11 AM

Re: 4-bet.... wtf.
 
Call and expekt to see something like KQs. But i am not sure about this one. Dont think a fold is super wrong.

I also fold this preflop.

ryanghall 11-27-2005 11:51 AM

Re: 4-bet.... wtf.
 
It's scary, but I make the call.

Ryan

11-27-2005 11:53 AM

Re: 4-bet.... wtf.
 
I am not folding this. You will see KT, KJ, KQ, TT, JJ, QQ, 89 as well as AK.

Dumle

gol4pro 11-27-2005 02:30 PM

Re: 4-bet.... wtf.
 
If you're ahead, it's probably 70/30.

If you're behind you're drawing dead.

You're not getting good call odds.

You have the 3rd nuts.

It's 7 handed.
Throw up, then flip a coin. I think it's that close.

jkkkk 11-27-2005 04:18 PM

Re: 4-bet.... wtf.
 
Yea I thought that I'm either drawing dead here or I'm a big favourite, his range where I am a big favourite is much larger than the one hand I'm drawing dead to. It also makes much more sense for QQ-TT to play this way than AK.

I called.

Turn: 2x

River Ax





He shows AA and MHIG

DoomSlice 11-27-2005 05:18 PM

Re: 4-bet.... wtf.
 
K9?

Either way, I make it a habbit to not fold flopped straights.

Finite_Risk 11-27-2005 06:43 PM

Re: 4-bet.... wtf.
 
Buddy List

pokerjoker 11-27-2005 09:17 PM

Re: 4-bet.... wtf.
 
I almost NEVER see anyone limp UtG w/ AK


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