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stinkypete 10-23-2005 06:14 AM

ace high in big pot
 
75/150

SB is a LAG. i've been playing him heads up for the past 20 minutes or so. i've been teh passive one, letting my opponent bet my hands for me. he's been 3-bet bluffing the turn with Q3 high. i've been running bad and folding a lot.

button has just joined. he watched us play HU for a while.

button opens, SB 3-bets, i cap with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

flop is 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]10[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. i bet. 2 calls.

turn is 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB bets, I raise, button 3-bets, SB folds, I call.

river is 10[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. i check and call.

sthief09 10-23-2005 06:20 AM

Re: ace high in big pot
 
hmm 13.5-1 on the turn, and 15.5-1 on the river. so it's about 7-1 effective. when behind you probably have around 2.5 outs or so. there are also reverse implied odds. that takes up about 5% of ti. now you need to win at showdown another 7.5%. you don't know the T is gonna pair the board, so either you made a bad call for a draw, or you are gonna have to be ahead 7.5% on any rive rthat's not an A or Q. I don't think this is even close really. so you're not good enough on the river to go for the double call for the effective odds and your draw isn't good enough for the pure odds. so imo fold the turn to the 3-bet

stinkypete 10-23-2005 06:28 AM

Re: ace high in big pot
 
throw in the fact that button is a thinking player, probably thinks i fold too much, and consider all the possible draws on the board.

it looks like good spot to semi-bluff to me... but i could be crazy. i find situations like this difficult to evaluate. so i call down. it might well be a big leak.

partygirluk 10-23-2005 06:34 AM

Re: ace high in big pot
 
I don't think he is semi-bluffing very often after the action goes: bet-raise to him on the turn.

stinkypete 10-23-2005 06:39 AM

Re: ace high in big pot
 
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I don't think he is semi-bluffing very often after the action goes: bet-raise to him on the turn.

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that's why i like semi-bluffing here. but maybe i'm the only one that thinks that way.

sthief09 10-23-2005 07:12 AM

Re: ace high in big pot
 
it's a pretty good semi-bluff with ace-little of clubs or Kcxc, but I just don't know if he does it enough. it's close. I'll give you that.

oreogod 10-23-2005 08:35 AM

Re: ace high in big pot
 
it is close. sb bets, u raise, he 3bets...tough situation. Especially with that board. LAG is a lag and while he could call with hands, a lot of the time hes betting nothing and Button has seen u fold a lot under pressure and he putting some on u right now.

Soo tough man. I could go either or but would be very tempted to call this down. Have you played with the button much and has he seen u raise-fold a lot this session? You mentioned folding, but if u raised-folded more than once Id probably call down.

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