QQ
 

Does anyone see a cheaper line to take with QQ? I'm thinking I should have folded the flop, but is the flop raise good? He pushed over my flop raise, and I can never get bison bisons working I hate it.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP3 ($155.75)
CO ($338.70)
Button ($156.25)
SB ($298.65)
BB ($199.10)
Hero ($181.10)
UTG+1 ($272.80)
UTG+2 ($179)
MP1 ($198)
MP2 ($200)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $20</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls $12.

Flop: ($43) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $60</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $123

Re: QQ
 

in this spot i like the check-call / lead turn

the reason is that his call of a check-raise doesn't give me enough information as to whether he has TT/JJ/KK/AA

Re: QQ
 

Just saw that my converter questions had been answered...

I think a case can certainly be made for check/folding the flop. This hand is very difficult to play out of position against a reraise. What are his reraising standards? They'd have to be pretty wide for any line to show a profit against them...

Check/calling, leading turn sounds okay, except by my math there would be $80 in the pot on the turn and two streets left where you're OOP. If you lead turn and he smooth calls, what's the plan for the river? Check/fold? Check/call? Push? This is kind of a nasty spot.

Re: QQ
 

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in this spot i like the check-call / lead turn

the reason is that his call of a check-raise doesn't give me enough information as to whether he has TT/JJ/KK/AA

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But his pushing over my C/R does [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]