Turn confusion - Overpair + 4th nut FD
 

UTG+1 was a clown and I was not really concerned about him at any point. Middle position guy had not done much of anything since sitting down a few orbits ago.

Party Poker 20/40 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (13.66 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, MP3 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, MP3 calls, CO folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.83 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Hero ???

Easy flop 3-bet? Call two on the turn? Three bet the turn? Fold the turn?!?

Re: Turn confusion - Overpair + 4th nut FD
 

Hopefully you'll get effective odds of about roughly 15:3, but i think you are [censored] more than that.

Re: Turn confusion - Overpair + 4th nut FD
 

I thought so too.. but I was a little concerned I under-represented my hand on the flop and now MP might be raising the clown lightly. I hate making decisions [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Re: Turn confusion - Overpair + 4th nut FD
 

i would have 3 bet the flop since you have position and can see what everyone does after seeing the turn. i only don't like juicing it up with the overpair on a monotone board if i'm out of position.