Second pair against flop 3-better
 

No read on villain, unfortunately; it's his first rotation.
Is my call loose PF? Postflop did I take the standard line at these stakes?

John

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (12 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (9 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (11 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13 BB

Re: Second pair against flop 3-better
 

With no read, I fold to villian's turn bet. You can pretty much safely assume you are behind. If he was a crazy aggro player, I may stay with this hand, as he is as likely to have no pair and just bet crazy, but you are not able to make that distinction yet. He cold called a raise and then bet out when the PF raiser checked. I think you're looking at AQ, KQ here. You're getting 17-1 on the flop 3 bet back to you to break even at 23-1, which is borderline with implied odds. If you hit a 9, you may be able to get 3 more BB out of him. I think you fold this, either on the flop 3 bet or turn. Not positive which is better...

Re: Second pair against flop 3-better
 

I'm probably going to just fold this preflop. I'd 3bet before coldcalling with it.

With no reads, I'm either folding right here or raising (then capping) hoping he's on a flush draw (probably folding).

I'm definitely folding that turn.

Re: Second pair against flop 3-better
 

p.s. You may not be getting responses because this more properly belongs in the micro forum.

Re: Second pair against flop 3-better
 

I like the flop raise. I fold the turn with confidence.

JC

Re: Second pair against flop 3-better
 

Preflop is good. Flop raise is okey. Very easy fold on the turn.