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jzpiano14 10-22-2005 05:23 AM

I just have to post this....
 
This goes with my other thread of bluffing, this was one I tried to pull of tonight and well I threw away a good chunck of my winnings. So plz flame me because I deserve it, it just helps when it comes from other people.

Villan in this hand is very good, thinking player, we have avoided a lot of confrentation because of VERY VERY AGGRO player at the table in CO who is a total donk. (who we will call very agro donk)

400NL/6 max
Hero has 675
Villan Covers

UTG folds, MP folds, CO (VAD) limps, Button folds, hero raises from SB with A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ( I was trying to isolate to get VAD heads up) but Villan in BB tags alongs, CO calls

Flop 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (pot 42)
Hero leads for 35, Villan calls, VAD folds

Turn 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (Pot 112)
Hero checks, Villan bets 35, Hero raises to 150, Villan calls

River 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (pot 412)
hero checks, villan bet 250, hero folds.

Once he called the turn raise, i gave up, anybody fire another one on the river, I thought for sure he would put it down on the turn, guess I was wrong. Obvioulsy giving up the pot on the turn is an option and frankly a better one than the road I took, but any suggestions/flames?

flawless_victory 10-22-2005 05:34 AM

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well I threw away a good chunck of my winnings.

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jzpiano14 10-22-2005 05:37 AM

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well I threw away a good chunck of my winnings.

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Glad u find that funny....cause I don't, any advice would be prefered ot the LOL comment

flawless_victory 10-22-2005 05:46 AM

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well I threw away a good chunck of my winnings.

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Glad u find that funny....cause I don't, any advice would be prefered ot the LOL comment

[/ QUOTE ]ok... in general i dont like this kind of turn play with not outs... makes no sense.. you are just giving up too much here... ppl are generally v suspicious of that line as well so use it when you ave a strong hand or good draw and slam ALL OF IT in there... also i consider anything within 3buyins to be about even for the session when im playing 6max... youre obviously playing above your head to consider such a tiny pot as super significant to your overall session...

MarkL444 10-22-2005 05:49 AM

Re: I just have to post this....
 
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well I threw away a good chunck of my winnings.

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Glad u find that funny....cause I don't, any advice would be prefered ot the LOL comment

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he was just laughing at your approach to this play, in a gambling theory perspective i guess. i'll admit i smiled when i read it too. if you think you are making +EV plays, dont worry about winnings, etc.

KaneKungFu123 10-22-2005 06:10 AM

Re: I just have to post this....
 
you are thinking about the game and approaching it from the right place, that is good.

you need to have a better read on villian to make this play.

10-22-2005 06:34 AM

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well I threw away a good chunck of my winnings.

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Glad u find that funny....cause I don't, any advice would be prefered ot the LOL comment

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In a sick sort of way, he was giving you advice. Winnings is a long term goal and the fact that you are upset about the money lost in one hand and not the way the hand was played is something you need to look at.

mgsimpleton 10-22-2005 08:40 AM

Re: I just have to post this....
 
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well I threw away a good chunck of my winnings.

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Glad u find that funny....cause I don't, any advice would be prefered ot the LOL comment

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In a sick sort of way, he was giving you advice. Winnings is a long term goal and the fact that you are upset about the money lost in one hand and not the way the hand was played is something you need to look at.

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anyone else think he was just being a douchebag?

DcifrThs 10-22-2005 09:38 AM

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Flop 3 4 T (pot 42)
Hero leads for 35, Villan calls, VAD folds

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villian has something he likes or plands to take the pot with. or something he wants to milk money with from the VAD.

i give it up on turn (i.e. check fold)

Barron

jzpiano14 10-22-2005 12:26 PM

Re: I just have to post this....
 
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well I threw away a good chunck of my winnings.

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Glad u find that funny....cause I don't, any advice would be prefered ot the LOL comment

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In a sick sort of way, he was giving you advice. Winnings is a long term goal and the fact that you are upset about the money lost in one hand and not the way the hand was played is something you need to look at.

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anyone else think he was just being a douchebag?

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my bad flawless.....I hadn't slept in 35 hours and was really tired and cranky so when I posted the hand, well you get the picture [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]


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