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CallMeIshmael 12-30-2005 07:48 PM

Official Indie Starter Kit Thread (Calling all hipsters... sorry euro)
 
2p2er nomadtla asked me for some advice on getting into 'indie' music. I asked him if he liked the idea of me zipping together 10-12 albums and then sending them to him. He said he thought this was a good idea. So, I ask you, OOT, to help me put this compilation together.

He has told me he is more into the songwriterish stuff than the unique sounds stuff. Though he is open to anything.


Given that Im unwilling to put forth the effort to do this if ITAOTS, YHF or the soft bulletin arent included, and Im sure one of Bends/OK Comp have to be included, we are left with 8 albums.

Go nuts.

MarkSummers 12-30-2005 07:49 PM

Re: Official Indie Starter Kit Thread (Calling all hipsters... sorry e
 
How about Interpol - Turn on the Bright Lights maybe?

Great album and it's a pretty accessible. I could be wrong...

Jack of Arcades 12-30-2005 07:59 PM

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1. Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
2. Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
3. Radiohead - OK Computer
4. Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin
5. Built to Spill - Keep it like a Secret
6. Modest Mouse - The Moon and Antarctica
7. Pixies - Surfer Rosa
8. Pavement - Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain
9. Decemberists - Castaways and Cutouts
10. Spoon - Kill The Moonlight
11. Sleater-Kinney - One Beat
12. Ted Leo - Hearts of Oak

Yikes. This leaves out R.E.M., Fiery Furnaces, Trail of Dead, Cursive, Bright Eyes, Beck, At the Drive-In, Sufjan, Pretty Girls Make Graves, The New Pornographers, and My Bloody Valentine among others.

tdarko 12-30-2005 08:05 PM

Re: Official Indie Starter Kit Thread (Calling all hipsters... sorry e
 
JoA,

what do you think of Explosions in the Sky?

CallMeIshmael 12-30-2005 08:06 PM

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How about Interpol - Turn on the Bright Lights maybe?

Great album and it's a pretty accessible. I could be wrong...

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Seems like a very reasonable inclusion

MikeNaked 12-30-2005 08:16 PM

Re: Official Indie Starter Kit Thread (Calling all hipsters... sorry e
 
Take out Decemberists (dude's voice is *too* damn indie rock) and put in Iron and Wine's "The Creek Drank the Cradle"

Sufjan's "Illinois" HAS to be in there, IMO.

Shins "Oh, Inverted World!" and some Beck would be good too.

12-30-2005 08:17 PM

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Cursive - The Ugly Organ

and

Mock Orange - Mind is not Brain

HAVE TO BE INCLUDED

12-30-2005 08:20 PM

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Big Tymers - Hood Rich

tdarko 12-30-2005 08:21 PM

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my current 5 that i rotate in my ipod are...

spoon- a girl can tell
surfjan- illinois
my morning jacket- Z
broken social scene- you forgot it in people
explosions in the sky- how strange, innocence

WillMagic 12-30-2005 08:29 PM

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I've just been getting into all this recently, and there's plenty of albums you guys mention that I've yet to listen to.

That said, Turn on the Bright Lights has gotta be in there. As does Illinois and Kill the Moonlight.

For the Radiohead album, I'd include The Bends before OK Computer for newbies.

Will

Jack of Arcades 12-30-2005 08:29 PM

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JoA,

what do you think of Explosions in the Sky?

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I'm a meh on post rock and stuff like that, I need lyrics.

Jack of Arcades 12-30-2005 08:30 PM

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if you're including an iron and wine album, it's woman king.

CallMeIshmael 12-30-2005 08:34 PM

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7. Pixies - Surfer Rosa

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Do you think SR is > DL for someone who has never heard them before??

I think he is more likely to like DL.

(DL was on my preliminary list)

12-30-2005 08:35 PM

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Elliott Smith

NotMitch 12-30-2005 08:35 PM

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1. Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
2. Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
3. Radiohead - OK Computer
4. Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin
5. Built to Spill - Keep it like a Secret
6. Modest Mouse - The Moon and Antarctica
7. Pixies - Surfer Rosa
8. Pavement - Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain
9. Decemberists - Castaways and Cutouts
10. Spoon - Kill The Moonlight
11. Sleater-Kinney - One Beat
12. Ted Leo - Hearts of Oak

Yikes. This leaves out R.E.M., Fiery Furnaces, Trail of Dead, Cursive, Bright Eyes, Beck, At the Drive-In, Sufjan, Pretty Girls Make Graves, The New Pornographers, and My Bloody Valentine among others.

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Good list Jack, even if I would have chosen Slanted & Enchated for the Pavement album.

Jack of Arcades 12-30-2005 08:38 PM

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7. Pixies - Surfer Rosa

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Do you think SR is > DL for someone who has never heard them before??

I think he is more likely to like DL.

(DL was on my preliminary list)

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Either one is fine. I started with Surfer Rosa and loved it, but Doolittle is cool. SR has the advantage of having the most famous Pixies song ("Where is My Mind")

CallMeIshmael 12-30-2005 08:39 PM

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Elliott Smith

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I think you need at least one of Sufjan/Elliot/Iron and Wine, but probably not more than one.

Any sort of consensus on this? Illinois was on my preliminary list, but I really really love either/or.

CallMeIshmael 12-30-2005 08:40 PM

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SR has the advantage of having one of the top 5 songs of the last 20 years ("Where is My Mind")

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theredwave 12-30-2005 08:42 PM

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A.C. Newman- The Slow Wonder
Lead singer of the New Pornographers.

jason_t 12-30-2005 08:43 PM

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1. Neutral Milk Hotel - In An Aeroplane Over the Sea
2. Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
3. The Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin
4. Radiohead - OK Computer
5. Clap Your Hands Say Yeah - Clap Your Hands Say Yeah
6. Rilo Kiley - The Execution of All Things
7. Elliott Smith - Either/Or
8. Spoon - Gimme Fiction
9. The Apples in Stereo - Fun Trick Noisemaker
10. Interpol - Turn On The Bright Lights
11. Bonnie "Prince" Billy - I See A Darkness
12. The Shins - Oh, Inverted World

Jack of Arcades 12-30-2005 08:43 PM

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A.C. Newman- The Slow Wonder
Lead singer of the New Pornographers.

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Dude, we know who Carl Newman is.

MikeNaked 12-30-2005 08:44 PM

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Elliott Smith

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I think you need at least one of Sufjan/Elliot/Iron and Wine, but probably not more than one.

Any sort of consensus on this? Illinois was on my preliminary list, but I really really love either/or.

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All 3 of those bands/artists IMO. Sufjan is pretty different to the other two due to his production and instrumentation. I guess if you had to choose between Elliot and Iron and Wine, go w/ Elliot - he was the progenitor of much of this genre as it is.

Edit: and the poor bastard's dead by self-inflicted knife in the heart. +10 points

Jack of Arcades 12-30-2005 08:44 PM

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Rilo Kiley absolutely has to go.

zephed 12-30-2005 08:46 PM

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JoA,

what do you think of Explosions in the Sky?

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I'm a meh on post rock and stuff like that, I need lyrics.

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What's post rock?

Jack of Arcades 12-30-2005 08:46 PM

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Elliott Smith

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I think you need at least one of Sufjan/Elliot/Iron and Wine, but probably not more than one.

Any sort of consensus on this? Illinois was on my preliminary list, but I really really love either/or.

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I think XO is far better than Either/Or and better than anything Beam has ever done but not better than Illinois.

CallMeIshmael 12-30-2005 08:46 PM

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11. Bonnie "Prince" Billy - I See A Darkness
12. The Shins - Oh, Inverted World

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These are two that I would have a really really hard time leaving off.


Also... given what I know of your tastes, Im surprised to not see Mr. Smith on there. What gives?

theredwave 12-30-2005 08:46 PM

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A.C. Newman- The Slow Wonder
Lead singer of the New Pornographers.

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Dude, we know who Carl Newman is.

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I didn't realize you knew, seeing as you left him out.

jason_t 12-30-2005 08:47 PM

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Rilo Kiley absolutely has to go.

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wtf.

Jack of Arcades 12-30-2005 08:47 PM

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Wiki

jason_t 12-30-2005 08:47 PM

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11. Bonnie "Prince" Billy - I See A Darkness
12. The Shins - Oh, Inverted World

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These are two that I would have a really really hard time leaving off.


Also... given what I know of your tastes, Im surprised to not see Mr. Smith on there. What gives?

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You caught me before I edited it. I got to 12 and stopped and then realized that I left off Smith (and a million other albums).

MikeNaked 12-30-2005 08:47 PM

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Elliott Smith

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I think you need at least one of Sufjan/Elliot/Iron and Wine, but probably not more than one.

Any sort of consensus on this? Illinois was on my preliminary list, but I really really love either/or.

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I think XO is far better than Either/Or

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You may be correct, but either/or is more accessible.

jason_t 12-30-2005 08:48 PM

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Elliott Smith

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I think you need at least one of Sufjan/Elliot/Iron and Wine, but probably not more than one.

Any sort of consensus on this? Illinois was on my preliminary list, but I really really love either/or.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think XO is far better than Either/Or and better than anything Beam has ever done but not better than Illinois.

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I think XO is a better album but Either/Or has the better songs.

jason_t 12-30-2005 08:48 PM

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Are people into indie really called hipsters? I know euro uses that term a lot but is it common?

CallMeIshmael 12-30-2005 08:50 PM

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Are people into indie really called hipsters? I know euro uses that term a lot but is it common?

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Evan rips on me over AIM CONSTANTLY, often with the term.

Ive never really heard it in with people Ive met, just 2p2ers.

tdarko 12-30-2005 08:50 PM

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figured this would help...

Jack of Arcades 12-30-2005 08:51 PM

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Either/Or is more accessible? wha?

Jack of Arcades 12-30-2005 08:53 PM

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Elliott Smith

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I think you need at least one of Sufjan/Elliot/Iron and Wine, but probably not more than one.

Any sort of consensus on this? Illinois was on my preliminary list, but I really really love either/or.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think XO is far better than Either/Or and better than anything Beam has ever done but not better than Illinois.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think XO is a better album but Either/Or has the better songs.

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Waltz #2, Bottle Up and Explode, a Question Mark, Baby Britain, and Bled White are better than anything on Either/Or. I never really understood the fascination with that album.

MikeNaked 12-30-2005 08:53 PM

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Either/Or is more accessible? wha?

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What jason said...better songs, more catchy, etc.

CallMeIshmael 12-30-2005 08:54 PM

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Elliott Smith

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I think you need at least one of Sufjan/Elliot/Iron and Wine, but probably not more than one.

Any sort of consensus on this? Illinois was on my preliminary list, but I really really love either/or.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think XO is far better than Either/Or and better than anything Beam has ever done but not better than Illinois.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think XO is a better album but Either/Or has the better songs.

[/ QUOTE ]

Waltz #2, Bottle Up and Explode, a Question Mark, Baby Britain, and Bled White are better than anything on Either/Or. I never really understood the fascination with that album.

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Say Yes is his best song.

Jack of Arcades 12-30-2005 08:55 PM

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Are people into indie really called hipsters? I know euro uses that term a lot but is it common?

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my girlfriend uses it as a derogatory term and exclusively to describe a style of dress.


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