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Niwa 05-25-2005 10:02 AM

Am I a fool not to push?
 
Prima 1/2 NL
Hero: $600
Villain: $251 (No read. I know that he's a winning player)

Hero is dealt: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Villain is BB and I am the only caller.

Flop: 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
He bets $5 (pot), I re-raise $15. He intacalls.
Turn: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] giving me the boat.
He bets 1/2 pot. I just call planning to C/R the river.

River: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

He checks, I bet $40. He raises to $100 straight. I just call.

jkkkk 05-25-2005 10:12 AM

Re: Am I a fool not to push?
 
wow thats weak, easy push here on the river.

swolfe 05-25-2005 10:58 AM

Re: Am I a fool not to push?
 
push the turn

Always Rockets 05-25-2005 11:22 AM

Re: Am I a fool not to push?
 
yes you are.

he probably has a 7 or a straight.

he definitely doesnt have 2 7s otherwise he wouldnt have checked preflop. the just call is super weak, an easy push.

Soul Daddy 05-25-2005 11:28 AM

Re: Am I a fool not to push?
 
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He bets 1/2 pot. I just call planning to C/R the river.

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It looks from the rest of the action that you have position, so I don't follow this logic. Raise the turn. Given that you didn't, yeah a river push seems pretty obvious.

Ghazban 05-25-2005 11:34 AM

Re: Am I a fool not to push?
 
I don't think a winning player will call a 3bet push on the river with a 1-card straight on this board. If you push and get called, I think you get shown a bigger boat.

As others have said, though, raising the turn would have been good; then the pot will be of a size on the river that you can get all-in and get called by a straight.

Niwa 05-25-2005 11:46 AM

*RESULTS*
 
During the hand I was convinced he had a bigger boat but in retrospect a turn raise and a river all-in is appropriate.

This time I just called and won against the one card straight.

I just couldnt see anyone playing a onecardstraight this way.

Villain shows: K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

theblitz 05-25-2005 12:33 PM

Re: Am I a fool not to push?
 
[ QUOTE ]
he definitely doesnt have 2 7s otherwise he wouldnt have checked preflop.

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Don't agree. Villian is OOP and has a chance to see a cheap flop with a smallish pair.
Also, not raising pre-flop gives away no information.

That said, I still push.


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