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jph0424 12-06-2005 01:33 PM

No contiunation bet
 
I fire flop after a preflop raise almost 100% of the time. I am looking for spots where checking behind may be a better option. How is this? Blinds are both LAPs 60/15/.5 ish


Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
[color=#CC3333]Hero raises</font>, 2 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (3 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks.

River: (3 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 3 BB

Koss 12-06-2005 01:35 PM

Re: No contiunation bet
 
I really think a turn bet is necessary here as the last money I'd put into the pot unimproved.

Spicymoose 12-06-2005 01:37 PM

Re: No contiunation bet
 
I don't like this spot to not bet the flop. You easily could have the best hand, and giving them a free card is bad. You win the pot straight up on the flop less often, as they are more inclined to stick around, but it still happens sometimes. Don't give them another free card on the turn. They still havn't shown interest, and still could be drawing. You just picked up a gutshot yourself, so fire away.

Awesome check on the river though [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img].

jph0424 12-06-2005 01:40 PM

Re: No contiunation bet
 
I decided to be the most passive donkey possible here. I should have definitely bet the river if not the turn also.

jph0424 12-06-2005 01:45 PM

Re: No contiunation bet
 
I checked behind on this flop because I thought I had zero fold equity against these guys and there was a good chance I was behind. I just felt out of my element here because I am used to pounding pounding pounding.

Spicymoose 12-06-2005 01:48 PM

Re: No contiunation bet
 
[ QUOTE ]
I checked behind on this flop because I thought I had zero fold equity against these guys and there was a good chance I was behind.

[/ QUOTE ]

BB checks and can literally have anything (except good cards). He can't connect always. If this were HU with SB somehow (BB folded rather than knocked), would you still not bet? Although your fold equity is lower than usual, you still have some. Also, although you may be behind, you learn nothing by checking. You are ahead enough that you might even be getting equity on this bet.

Wynton 12-06-2005 01:50 PM

Re: No contiunation bet
 
I don't see the advantage of checking the flop here, unless you're prepared to c/f the turn ui. If you're saying that they will both see the turn regardless, then I don't think you should be raising 55 utg at this table.

In fact,once you check the flop, it seems very difficult to bet the turn (let alone the river), against these players.

jph0424 12-06-2005 01:57 PM

Re: No contiunation bet
 
I agree wynton, it was 5 handed and i was on autopilot preflop. I raise 55 UTG as a standard operating proceedure at a 5 handed table. With these guys as the blinds I should have mucked it.

I also definitely bet flop against just one of these guys and I was prepared to fold the turn if either of them bet.

12-06-2005 03:42 PM

Re: No contiunation bet
 
Flop is good. I'd throw one in on the turn when it gets checked to me a second time and make that my last money in.


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