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locutus2002 11-19-2005 05:31 AM

Stars 45K Final Table
 
I'm one of the short stacks on the final table with JohnnyBax [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

beenben 11-19-2005 05:36 AM

Re: Stars 45K Final Table
 
i'm watching.

Exitonly 11-19-2005 05:37 AM

Re: Stars 45K Final Table
 
watching you. GL.

Exitonly 11-19-2005 05:39 AM

Re: Stars 45K Final Table
 
ouch. nice call. tough break. gg

11-19-2005 05:41 AM

Re: Stars 45K Final Table
 
He took you out!

87o is the nuts. :\

locutus2002 11-19-2005 05:43 AM

Re: Stars 45K Final Table
 
thanks for watching guys.
I went out in my usual 5th-6th place.


I was telling my wife Bax will bet this 100% of the time.
Instacall.

yvesaint 11-19-2005 06:15 AM

Re: Stars 45K Final Table
 
most retarded FT play ever?

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PokerStars Game #3098487667: Tournament #15015613, Hold'em No Limit - Level XXVI (40000/80000) - 2005/11/19 - 05:12:58 (ET)
Table '15015613 53' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Jomar60 (3625511 in chips)
Seat 6: FisherGod52 (4078489 in chips)
Jomar60: posts the ante 4000
FisherGod52: posts the ante 4000
Jomar60: posts small blind 40000
FisherGod52: posts big blind 80000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Jomar60: raises 160000 to 240000
FisherGod52: calls 160000
*** FLOP *** [5h 7s Ad]
FisherGod52: bets 3834489 and is all-in
Jomar60: calls 3381511 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [5h 7s Ad] [7h]
*** RIVER *** [5h 7s Ad 7h] [Kc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FisherGod52: shows [Kh Ks] (a full house, Kings full of Sevens)
Jomar60: shows [2d 7d] (three of a kind, Sevens)
FisherGod52 collected 7251022 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7251022 | Rake 0
Board [5h 7s Ad 7h Kc]
Seat 1: Jomar60 (button) (small blind) showed [2d 7d] and lost with three of a kind, Sevens
Seat 6: FisherGod52 (big blind) showed [Kh Ks] and won (7251022) with a full house, Kings full of Sevens

oh and there was no discussion of even the possibility of a chop ... lol

11-19-2005 06:22 AM

Re: Stars 45K Final Table
 
this was better, and they say you can't call with nothing...

PokerStars Game #3098434863: Tournament #15015613, Hold'em No Limit - Level XXV (30000/60000) - 2005/11/19 - 04:53:59 (ET)
Table '15015613 53' Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Jomar60 (754980 in chips)
Seat 2: -Not P- (1950386 in chips)
Seat 5: thorn50 (1070649 in chips)
Seat 6: FisherGod52 (1007408 in chips)
Seat 7: JohnnyBax (2920577 in chips)
Jomar60: posts the ante 3000
-Not P-: posts the ante 3000
thorn50: posts the ante 3000
FisherGod52: posts the ante 3000
JohnnyBax: posts the ante 3000
thorn50: posts small blind 30000
FisherGod52: posts big blind 60000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
JohnnyBax: folds
Jomar60: folds
-Not P-: folds
thorn50: raises 60000 to 120000
FisherGod52: calls 60000
*** FLOP *** [9h Kh 7h]
thorn50: bets 180000
FisherGod52: raises 180000 to 360000
thorn50: raises 587649 to 947649 and is all-in
FisherGod52: calls 524408 and is all-in
JohnnyBax said, "OMG"
*** TURN *** [9h Kh 7h] [Qd]
*** RIVER *** [9h Kh 7h Qd] [7c]
-Not P- said, "two misclicks?"
JohnnyBax said, "WHO WINS?"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
thorn50: shows [8s 5c] (a pair of Sevens)
FisherGod52: shows [Ac 4h] (a pair of Sevens - Ace kicker)
FisherGod52 collected 2023816 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2023816 | Rake 0
Board [9h Kh 7h Qd 7c]
Seat 1: Jomar60 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: -Not P- (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: thorn50 (small blind) showed [8s 5c] and lost with a pair of Sevens
Seat 6: FisherGod52 (big blind) showed [Ac 4h] and won (2023816) with a pair of Sevens
Seat 7: JohnnyBax folded before Flop (didn't bet)

billyjex 11-19-2005 06:27 AM

Re: Stars 45K Final Table
 
wow

aaronbeen 11-19-2005 08:20 AM

Re: Stars 45K Final Table
 
Ugh I really wish I hadn't read that. I'm feeling more and more discouraged about running out of gas a few tables before the final. So many donkeys!

11-19-2005 06:14 PM

Re: Stars 45K Final Table
 
Hi, my first post on this forum.

Asked for a deal twice, but no one seemed intrested. The call with 72, aint my proudest moment, but it's not as bad as you say either. Here's my thoughts: The opponent had made many strange plays during the finaletable. Betting very strong on pot without hitting. Calling pushes with J9o, and lost a pot vs K high an so on.

Jomar60: posts the ante 4000
FisherGod52: posts the ante 4000
Jomar60: posts small blind 40000
FisherGod52: posts big blind 80000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Jomar60 [7d 2d]: raises 160000 to 240000
FisherGod52: calls 160000
*** FLOP *** [5h 7s Ad]
FisherGod52: bets 3834489 and is all-in

When he makes a stop n go move here, it tell me that he don't have the A. This is a move I've seen a lot of times with draws, low pairs and as pure bluffs. So I put him on a draw, low pair, or maybe a mid pair. I think there is a reasonable chance that I'm in front, and that I got 5 outs + a backdoor flush draw if I'm behind.

Not a very good play, but I think the push is worse.

Is this retarded thinking?

Jurollo 11-19-2005 06:17 PM

Re: Stars 45K Final Table
 
You called the push didnt you? So clearly whatever moves he had made previously set you up for this one. Not to mention, he has a lot of his chips in the pot and is first to act on an A high flop, pushing here represents an A even though he only has the K's. I don't mind the push at all, in fact I make similar moves when shorthanded.
~Justin

benneh 11-19-2005 06:18 PM

Re: Stars 45K Final Table
 
very horrible. you have a pair of 7s with a deuce kicker.

yvesaint 11-19-2005 06:19 PM

Re: Stars 45K Final Table
 
[ QUOTE ]
You called the push didnt you? So clearly whatever moves he had made previously set you up for this one. Not to mention, he has a lot of his chips in the pot and is first to act on an A high flop, pushing here represents an A even though he only has the K's. I don't mind the push at all, in fact I make similar moves when shorthanded.
~Justin

[/ QUOTE ]

yea, but seriously, 4 million into a 400k pot? h also wasn't the pfr, he flat called with KK

if he loses this pot he is completely crippled

i dont think the risk:reward is good enough to justify pushing 10xpot

Jurollo 11-19-2005 06:19 PM

Re: Stars 45K Final Table
 
He played it poorly preflop by not reraising you and got scared when the A hit the flop, seems like a pretty straightforward reason for the play, your call is terrible though.
~Justin

Jurollo 11-19-2005 06:20 PM

Re: Stars 45K Final Table
 
I don't like the push either, but the call is much worse.
~Justin

11-19-2005 06:26 PM

Re: Stars 45K Final Table
 
Ain't too much about what I got. It's more about what he got, and why he is making this move. He bets like he doesn't want a call, and didn't hit his hand, or is on a draw.

Jurollo 11-19-2005 06:34 PM

Re: Stars 45K Final Table
 
For future reference, dont post results for hands like this... you will get better analysis if you dont.
~Justin

11-19-2005 06:38 PM

Re: Stars 45K Final Table
 
[ QUOTE ]
He played it poorly preflop by not reraising you and got scared when the A hit the flop, seems like a pretty straightforward reason for the play, your call is terrible though.
~Justin

[/ QUOTE ]

That's a really bad reason for the play. It's probably the reasoning he used, but it's horrible to push because the flop could have wrecked your hand.

11-19-2005 06:40 PM

Re: Stars 45K Final Table
 
Yes, the results was already out in a previous post. Tnx for your thougts. I don't like my call too much either, but don't think it's that terrible.

Guess it's those calls you make when you've been awake for 30+ hours and should've been asleep before the tourney started [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

11-19-2005 06:40 PM

Re: Stars 45K Final Table
 
yvesaint was the one who posted the results not the actual player.

Jurollo 11-19-2005 06:41 PM

Re: Stars 45K Final Table
 
I realize it isnt a GOOD reason, but I think it is pretty clear that it likely the reasoning for the huge overbet. He was hoping to fold out weaker aces and take the pot now.
~Justin


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