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obsidian 12-28-2005 02:56 PM

Re: 88 - I cold call
 
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Any PP, ATo+, A9s+, KJo+, KTs+, QJo

He peels with most of these hands on this board too.

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And which ones will he bet the turn with?

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I'd say any PP, big ace (AQ, AJ), K, 6, or 7. Rule out the 7 when I'm not 3-bet. Although the only 6 or 7 would most likely be a mid suited connector.

Nightwish 12-28-2005 07:20 PM

Re: 88 - I cold call
 
Let me guess, you won this hand. But other than preflop and the river, your play makes no sense here.

First, what are you calling the flop for? You have a preflop raiser, an MP caller, and a K on the board. The only worse card that could have flopped would be an A. Calling the flop here is just a "peel and see what happens" leak. The situation would be different if you were heads-up, but you have to fold it 3-ways.

Next, you say you raise the turn to get UTG to fold his 99-QQ. But there's no way someone with stats like 14/12/4.8 checks the turn with 99-QQ. He's betting. So his most likely hand is something like AQ/AJ/AT. Sure, it's definitely worthwhile to get that hand to fold (except that he'd likely check-fold anyway even without your raise), but what are you putting MP3 on? Top pair beats you, middle pair beats you, so you think he has bottom pair or some unpaired crap? Perhaps, but this is really far-fetched.

dave44 12-28-2005 08:18 PM

Re: 88 - I cold call
 
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I would fold on the flop, absent more info on MP3.

What do you put MP3 on?

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Any PP, ATo+, A9s+, KJo+, KTs+, QJo

He peels with most of these hands on this board too.

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As long as this is true I think you played this hand perfectly.

sfer 12-29-2005 12:07 AM

Re: 88 - I cold call
 
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The turn raise was to push UTG off a hand like 99-QQ.

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This ain't horseshoes.


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