2 50-100 hands vs. phil laak
 

hand 1:

i have ~15K, phil has ~100K.

i'm in the SB w/ 66, a really bad player limps on the button w/~9K, i raise to isolate making it 450 straight.

to my dismay phil calls, and the limper folds.

flop comes 6-5-5 rainbow.

i lead for $600 phil calls.

turn comes a Queen putting two hearts on the board.

6-5-5-Q two hearts.

i check call $1200.

river comes an offsuit duece i lead for $2K.

i was really at a loss for how to maximize my profit on this hand, i had a hard time putting phil on a hand here, as he often times likes to call in position and take pots away, so he could have been on a total bluff or had a hand like 77-JJ.

i contemplated checkraising the turn but i felt it would scream strength, and i hoped my river lead would look like a bust.

he ended up folding after not too much consideration, so i'm still not sure what the best line would have been.

any thoughts appreciated.


hand 2:

i'm in BB w/AKspades and ~20K phil still has me way covered.

phil limps, all fold to me and i raise to $500 he calls.

flop comes Q-10-3 rainbow.

i check phil bets 1K i call.

turn comes a brick (i think a seven) putting two hearts on the board.

i check phil bets 2K i make it 5.5K.

any thoughts?

Re: 2 50-100 hands vs. phil laak
 

hand 1 looks fine, although i might try for the weaker lead on the turn, but it depends how agg. he was playing and whether he would try to steal this one from you there.


hand #2. your pf raise is borderline at best.

i would bet the flop here though, and go for the CR semi bluff on the turn if you really want do try that here.

what hands would you check twice in that same spot? you playing QQ like that?

it looks too much like a bluff than my line I think.

Re: 2 50-100 hands vs. phil laak
 

i think u need to overbet the flop on #1.

Re: 2 50-100 hands vs. phil laak
 

in hand 1, 2k seems like a weird amount. doesn't seem like you were getting called anyways, but if you were going to bluff would you lay him 3:1? seems like he either has nothing or a weak hand, and if he has nothing checking is probably much better against him.

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Re: 2 50-100 hands vs. phil laak
 

Where is this game played?

Re: 2 50-100 hands vs. phil laak
 

Substituting phil laak for "a very good player" because I have no idea how he plays ring games.

Hand 1, the only losing hand that played the flop and call are a few 5s, making the odds that he has one very small. If he likes to bet his position, the % of the time you can induce a bluff is likely higher than that he % of time has one of the 5s, but you know his style and I don't.
I don't see any reason to CR the turn... you have no reason to think he's on a flush draw so a CR doesn't look like you're trying to push a flush draw out, rather it looks like the monster it is.
He likely has an overpair and if his 4%er hits you aren't going to lay it down to him so a scared player might CR but the check is the right call. On the river you hope a flush or high card hits and you can check and induce a river bet.

Hand 2 is a tricky bet number. He knows you aren't that afraid of a backdoor flush so I like that you kept the bet controlled. I hope he didn't have 10-10.

Was there another play you considered?

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Re: 2 50-100 hands vs. phil laak
 

In hand #2, why not consider taking the same line as you did with your monster in hand#1?

Call the turn and lead the river for 3 or 4k.

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in hand 1, 2k seems like a weird amount. doesn't seem like you were getting called anyways, but if you were going to bluff would you lay him 3:1? seems like he either has nothing or a weak hand, and if he has nothing checking is probably much better against him.

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You don't think 2k looks like a weak blocking bet or something similar that Phil might try to steal away?

Re: 2 50-100 hands vs. phil laak
 

on hand 1 ALOTTTTT wider range of hands in this game will call the river then a high 5.

Re: 2 50-100 hands vs. phil laak
 

Could be.
Do you think AA or KK are calling 6% of hero's stack on the flop for top boat value? Does he think they're good and is trying induce the second barrel?
If you mean there are other 5s, I tweaked my post for clarity. I mean a small % of 5s would be played this one, it doesn't matter which just that they are infrequent.

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