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baronzeus 11-17-2005 09:45 AM

30/60 rare bluff river raise by me
 
villain standard 30/60 lag....45/30 or something 6 handed. something i do very rarely but i thought this might be a good spot for it. thoughts?

ps MP was pretty tight preflop or i raise this usually

Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (5 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB folds, BB checks, MP checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (2 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, MP folds, Hero calls.

River: (6 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds.

Final Pot: 9 BB

flawless_victory 11-17-2005 10:23 AM

Re: 30/60 rare bluff river raise by me
 
why didnt you just threebet the turn?
this guy must be real stupid to fall for this or maybe he just couldnt beat the 9high and said the hell w/ it.

no likey.

also i raise pre even if CO is a rock.
you have button, you are prob not dominated and have a good hand w/ plenty equity, you might win by represtnig on Axx/Kxx flops, you can take a free card as you plz.

baronzeus 11-17-2005 10:36 AM

Re: 30/60 rare bluff river raise by me
 
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why didnt you just threebet the turn?

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i probably should have. question is, do i follow through on the river if he calls my 3bet?


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also i raise pre even if CO is a rock.

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agree...after i limped i tried to justify why i could limp there. but raising is definitely better imo.

i limp 65s there.

brazilio 11-17-2005 10:38 AM

Re: 30/60 rare bluff river raise by me
 
Think you're forced to in case he's semibluff raising hearts.

imitation 11-17-2005 10:42 AM

Re: 30/60 rare bluff river raise by me
 
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Think you're forced to in case he's semibluff raising hearts.

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Don't you think CR semibluffing is clutching at straws, I don't play in these highly aggressive games enough and for a while to comment sufficiently on what a 45/30 does however I feel like this player just leads on the turn alot with a flush draw and a K hitting.

flawless_victory 11-17-2005 10:43 AM

Re: 30/60 rare bluff river raise by me
 
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why didnt you just threebet the turn?

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i probably should have. question is, do i follow through on the river if he calls my 3bet?

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i would give up at that point.


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i limp 65s there.

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me2.

baronzeus 11-17-2005 10:45 AM

Re: 30/60 rare bluff river raise by me
 
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Think you're forced to in case he's semibluff raising hearts.

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Don't you think CR semibluffing is clutching at straws, I don't play in these highly aggressive games enough and for a while to comment sufficiently on what a 45/30 does however I feel like this player just leads on the turn alot with a flush draw and a K hitting.

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dont you think villain's line means he has absolute garbage? im just trying to fold out Q high.

imitation 11-17-2005 10:49 AM

Re: 30/60 rare bluff river raise by me
 
Yes sorry which is why I like 3-betting more than the river raise, sorry I wasn't clear. For the same reasons discussed in the AK thread, calling lets him suck out, folding the 6-outer with bigger kicker is a coup.

Alobar 11-17-2005 12:43 PM

Re: 30/60 rare bluff river raise by me
 
I dont like it, like others have said, the turn is a much better place for it

bugstud 11-17-2005 12:45 PM

Re: 30/60 rare bluff river raise by me
 
I think I obs'ed this hand. I wondered wtf your hand could possibly be here. you're pretty much repping A2s and a bunch of unrealistic hands.


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