J8o BB.
 

<font color="purple">At the table, this made my head hurt. </font>

<font color="blue">If it helps your decision any, UTG is 75/13/3.5 </font>

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, SB folds,<font color="green"> Hero ?</font>

Re: J8o BB.
 

Why is that so hard? OK you have middle pair, flush+straight drawsbutI don't think you can get a lot of value by raising b/c of inverse impied odds. Your flush can lose to a better flush, your J,8 outs to a straight, your straight to JQ etc. And someone might already have made a straight or flush.

I hope you made a straight flush in the end

Re: J8o BB.
 

I bet the flop

Re: J8o BB.
 

I'd definitely bet the flop. UTG stats are crazy aggressive - hope he pops you and protects your hand. given how you played it I think you have odds to peel on the flop.

Re: J8o BB.
 

Yeah I like a bet, if the guy's a maniac he will raise and blow away the field - in this case desirable as your draws are fairly weak and you could be ahead anyway...

Re: J8o BB.
 

grunch

Bet the flop. Bet a 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] on the turn

Re: J8o BB.
 

Given your check, I would think this is a pretty easy call.

Re: J8o BB.
 

Hmmmm... It's seems everyone wants to bet the flop.

I'm just wondering how often we expect a raise from UTG to knock out the rest of the field AND how often he's raising with a worse hand? Often enough by the responses.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, SB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

River: (9 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="green">What's the river plan?</font>

Re: J8o BB.
 

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What's the river plan?

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Is this a trick question?

Re: J8o BB.
 

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What's the river plan?

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Is this a trick question?

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I could have just put Hero?
Do you bet/fold with the aggressive on your right?
Do you check/call when it's one back to you?
Do you check/fold two back to you?
Do you check/raise if it's just the aggressive?
Do you overcall if everyone calls?
Do you bet/call the aggressive?
Do you bet/call if the aggressive's raise gets a caller?
Do you bet/3bet the aggressive?

NO. It's not a trick question.