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Rubeskies 12-05-2005 05:39 PM

Re: Big pot with 88
 
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Button could be stabbing here. I am ahead of him a bunch.

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Maybe but LPs rarely take stabs at many pots 5-handed. Especially when somebody raised preflop.

sthief09 12-05-2005 05:44 PM

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I don't like your river bet. A worse hand isnt calling and a better hand isn't folding. He called 2 cold on the flop and just called the turn, I check and let him bluff his missed draw.

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river bet is good. of course AK is calling

Lmn55d 12-05-2005 05:59 PM

Re: Big pot with 88
 
oops didn't see MP was PFR. River bet is good because aces pay off and he's very likely to have AK/AT

climber 12-05-2005 06:03 PM

Re: Big pot with 88
 
I agree with kurosh you are spewing. I dont liek the flop c/r with both the Q and the J. Make it only one of those its fine but not here.

After he calls your c/r and trun lead dont bet the river unless you have some kind of read that he likes to fold on the river.

Spicymoose 12-05-2005 06:06 PM

Re: Big pot with 88
 
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I agree with kurosh you are spewing. I dont liek the flop c/r with both the Q and the J. Make it only one of those its fine but not here.

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I was planning on check/folding the flop, but when I saw button bet, I figured I could easily be ahead, and decided to try to win this big pot. With MP raising preflop, checking, and then cold calling, I figure there was no way he had a Q. After he only calls me on the turn when the jack pairs, I figure there is no way he has that either.

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After he calls your c/r and trun lead dont bet the river unless you have some kind of read that he likes to fold on the river.

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He could still be drawing, but too passive to fold his A. Having the read that he likes to fold on the river does not help me here. I need him to be calling as much as possible on the river. No way I am getting a better hand to fold. This is hopefully for value.

climber 12-05-2005 06:31 PM

Re: Big pot with 88
 
Sorry ignore my advice I kind mis-read the hand and had you with only one villain who initally bet and kept calling you.

12-05-2005 07:19 PM

Re: Big pot with 88
 
Ewwwwwww. What, you putting the MP on AK, AT, or worse pairs?

Given the way he played post flop, I'm guess you lost to 99 or TT.

Spicymoose 12-05-2005 07:27 PM

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Ewwwwwww. What, you putting the MP on AK, AT?

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Either that or as you say, 99 or TT. I think AK is most likely out of all.

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Given the way he played post flop, I'm guess you lost to 99 or TT.

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Nope, AK.

Spicymoose 12-05-2005 07:28 PM

Re: Big pot with 88
 
For those of you who don't like my play, would anything change if I had 99 or TT?

For those of you that do like my play, would anything change if I had 22-77? What would you change if anything?

12-05-2005 07:32 PM

Re: Big pot with 88
 
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For those of you who don't like my play, would anything change if I had 99 or TT?

For those of you that do like my play, would anything change if I had 22-77? What would you change if anything?

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I'd like TT much better. You beat more pairs (99/88 for example). It helps rule out AT as a holding since you hold two T's already, so you can make AK more likely.

In a nutshell, with TT you beat a significantly larger range of hands he could hold.


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