10/20 Fired two barrels and the flush comes.. now what?
 

The enemy in this hand is 55/5 over 800 or so hands.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter

Hero ($3209.5)
MP1 ($2419)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $80</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls $80, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>.

Flop: ($190) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $190</font>, MP1 calls $190.

Turn: ($570) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $570</font>, MP1 calls $570.

River: ($1710) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ???

I've seen this guy make some pretty crazy calls, but usually they were "semi-crazy", i.e. AT or so when an Ace hit the board. I'm not sure if I can put him on top pair or something here. Theoretically, calling the bet on the turn should rule out the flush draw, but with this guy you never know.

I find myself in similar situations quite often - I don't mean having top set, but being up against a possible flush draw that nevertheless called a big turn bet.

What to do? Check-call? Push? 'shudder' check-fold?

And what if I have aces instead? Tens?

Re: 10/20 Fired two barrels and the flush comes.. now what?
 

unfortunately, i'm thinking you're beat here. i'm putting him on two club face cards. your PF raise should've filtered out the 57s and 7Ts junk that he could possibly be just calling with, playing slow. and i think if he had another set he would have re-raised you on the flop. however, if he's as crazy as you say he is, could he have an OESD here with something like JT? results, please.

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Id like to blocking bet here, but because youve been betting EXACTLY the pot the whole way, i think it will be pretty easy for villain to see thru ur blocking bet unless he is retarded.
Do you use the bet pot button all the time?
Does he get tricky?
If he does get tricky then i think i would lead , so he cannot take the pot away from you.
If he doesnt get tricky, i check...and expect him to check behind with anything but the flush.

Re: 10/20 Fired two barrels and the flush comes.. now what?
 

you check call to induce a bluff from an overpair.

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check call. Results?

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you check call to induce a bluff from an overpair.

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Why would an overpair bet this river? I say bet/fold.

Re: 10/20 Fired two barrels and the flush comes.. now what?
 

People don't bluff with made hands.

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you check call to induce a bluff from an overpair.

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Why would an overpair bet this river? I say bet/fold.

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villian has about 1600 left on the river, the pot is 1700, im thinking bet-folding isnt a good idea, esp. against a 55 vpip who could have anything.

if you bet 800, you going to fold for 800 more getting over 5-1??? if you bet less, they may just raise thinking you are weak.

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you check call to induce a bluff from an overpair.

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Why would an overpair bet this river? I say bet/fold.

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villian has about 1600 left on the river, the pot is 1700, im thinking bet-folding isnt a good idea, esp. against a 55 vpip who could have anything.

if you bet 800, you going to fold for 800 more getting over 5-1??? if you bet less, they may just raise thinking you are weak.

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From OP's description this guy seems to suck pretty bad and not be aggressive. Are you really afraid that he will bluff you out of the pot when you bet 600 on the river after betting full pot on the flop and turn? Didn't seem to me like that type of play would be in this guy's arsenal. And since he's such a loose caller, it seems like checking is just leaving too much money on the table.

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People don't bluff with made hands.

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Exactly. If the guy has 10-10 he's going to check it down. I say move allin on the river