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chuddo 12-06-2005 01:36 AM

Re: HU Hand vs Strassa
 
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fsuplayer 12-06-2005 08:48 AM

*RESULTS*
 
I thought about pushing on the river, but i thought that he has air or a fullhouse at least as often as he has Ax here, given the way the hand went down.

It felt at the time in the hand as if he was finally excited I was calling his bets and he was waking up with a huge hand this time.

with standard 2k starting stacks, i think its an easy river push with a few hundred left, as he may call with some one pair hand he was bluffing/value betting like KK-JJ.

as the stacks were however, I dont think he pays off the last thousand without at least an ace, esp. given that i hadnt show him any moves of bluffs. (just sets [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img])


so i called and he showed A10o and MHIG.

thanks for the replies.

TheWorstPlayer 12-06-2005 08:50 AM

Re: *RESULTS*
 
He's obviously calling a push with his actual holding, yes?

fsuplayer 12-06-2005 08:59 AM

Re: *RESULTS*
 
yes, pretty sure from the way things had been going between us at the time.

KaneKungFu123 12-06-2005 10:23 AM

Re: HU Hand vs Strassa
 
this is pretty thin call, but its a call nonetheless.

KaneKungFu123 12-06-2005 10:25 AM

Re: HU Hand vs Strassa
 
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it shouldn't

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disagree.

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turnipmonster 12-06-2005 10:29 AM

Re: HU Hand vs Strassa
 
reasoning?

Jason Strasser 12-06-2005 01:11 PM

Re: *RESULTS*
 
I'm fairly sure I'm not calling off the rest versus you here. Takes a lot of moxy to bluff in a spot like that and I dont think the price would be nearly good enough because you'd never value raise a worse hand.

kagame 12-06-2005 06:53 PM

Re: HU Hand vs Strassa
 
i reiterate turn raise :-)

muzungu 12-06-2005 08:12 PM

Re: *RESULTS*
 
Seems pretty standard to me, i can't really imagine playing it any other way, especially given the dynamic at the time.

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I thought about pushing on the river, but i thought that he has air or a fullhouse at least as often as he has Ax here, given the way the hand went down.

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Pushing wouldn't even cross my mind here. I think AT+/air is a reasonable range for strassa- potting the river with Ax seems pretty pointless. Check to snap off a bluff, 1/3 or 1/2 pot it for value/to freeze a bigger ace, but don't pot it. Potting it with AT is a little thin, but it is easy to put fsu on Ax here, and strassa has been LAGing it up, so it seems ok.

Also, strassa should be folding AJ/AT to a river raise. Hardly anyone bluffs here- we all look in retrospect and say wow, what a perfect spot to bluff... but in the moment it doesn't happen. If strassa has to consider calling for the rest here, he shouldn't be leading for 1/2 of his stack in the first place.


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