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lapoker17 12-29-2005 04:33 PM

Re: $2/$5 NL ($300 max) hand at Turning Stone vs. 2+2er
 
here's a little tip for anyone who plays these smaller live nl games. RAISE MORE PREFLOP. $13? wtf?

it doesn't matter what the table's "standard" open is. you are the table's standard. make it 30 to go always. after you do it a few times, people will realize that you aren't going to change and they will start making big preflop errors because they really love QJ suited.

snowbank 12-29-2005 04:40 PM

Re: $2/$5 NL ($300 max) hand at Turning Stone vs. 2+2er
 
I agree, $13 wasn't the standard, it just happened to be what I did the 3 hands before, so I figured someone may play back at me. I think there were several players at the table with $100-$200 stacks, so I was going to re-raise them if they raised me.

That's the way I thought about it when I put it out there, that's the only reason I made it $13. I agree with you though.

snowbank 12-29-2005 07:16 PM

RESULTS
 
He turned over 9-8 for a straight, and took it down.

BobboFitos 12-29-2005 10:11 PM

Re: $2/$5 NL ($300 max) hand at Turning Stone vs. 2+2er
 
[ QUOTE ]
If this is BobboFitos,
you should re-raise preflop.

[/ QUOTE ]

There were actually 2 cold callers, making a blind squeeze more attractive. Thats a very important detail.

And no, it wasnt me. And yes, vs me I probably have nothing and getting all in w/ AK is a godsend.

But, against this player, (good friend of mine) I believe strongly the right play is to fold preflop, even after inducing the reraise. He simply is not messing around often enough; it's aces or kings 70% of the time, with AK/QQ/JJ/89ish hands other 30%.

Gary Stevenson 12-29-2005 11:14 PM

Re: $2/$5 NL ($300 max) hand at Turning Stone vs. 2+2er
 
I was villain in this hand, just wondering what some of you thought of my play in this hand. Obviously i had witnessed snow raise 4 hands in a row to $13 and viewed this play as just building a pot with a marginal holding, I did not expect any callers especially since he was reraised by the tightest player in the casino. Once he called the flop bet and checked behind on the turn i was 95% sure he had AK, which is why i made it "cheap" for him (knowing he was playing solid and probably wouldn't call much more than $100).

12-30-2005 12:00 AM

Re: $2/$5 NL ($300 max) hand at Turning Stone vs. 2+2er
 
[ QUOTE ]
I was villain in this hand, just wondering what some of you thought of my play in this hand. Obviously i had witnessed snow raise 4 hands in a row to $13 and viewed this play as just building a pot with a marginal holding, I did not expect any callers especially since he was reraised by the tightest player in the casino. Once he called the flop bet and checked behind on the turn i was 95% sure he had AK, which is why i made it "cheap" for him (knowing he was playing solid and probably wouldn't call much more than $100).

[/ QUOTE ]

Gary, I think your play in this hand was great.

Preflop was a perfect spot for a squeeze play, op had been raising a lot, two cold calls of someone who has raised a lot recently, and your tight image.

Flop fine, turn fine, good value bet on the river.

nh.

Mempho 12-30-2005 12:11 AM

Re: $2/$5 NL ($300 max) hand at Turning Stone vs. 2+2er
 
[ QUOTE ]
here's a little tip for anyone who plays these smaller live nl games. RAISE MORE PREFLOP. $13? wtf?

it doesn't matter what the table's "standard" open is. you are the table's standard. make it 30 to go always. after you do it a few times, people will realize that you aren't going to change and they will start making big preflop errors because they really love QJ suited.

[/ QUOTE ]

I smell live game experience...all I can say is "ditto."

Mempho 12-30-2005 12:12 AM

Re: $2/$5 NL ($300 max) hand at Turning Stone vs. 2+2er
 
Snow, I'm not trying to nitpick here, but why, o why, were you opening the first 2 hands for $13 to begin with? Even if you were raising with implied stuff, why not try to make it look like a real hand?

snowbank 12-30-2005 06:01 AM

Re: $2/$5 NL ($300 max) hand at Turning Stone vs. 2+2er
 
I was villain in this hand, just wondering what some of you thought of my play in this hand.

I thought it was very good. Like I mentioned to you on our way to eat, the relatively cheap flop bet made it look like you were trying to trap me with JJ or 1010, which is why I didn't raise you. The only hands I figured I beat at the time was AQ or KK. 1010, JJ, AA, AJ have me way behind, and althought I doubted you had them, KQ and A10 also have me way behind.

I personally love the turn check. I think 95% of players bet that turn in my situation, seeing you bet small on the flop and check the turn after you make a hand that would be nearly impossible for me to put you on. I think it's a huge moneymaker.

snowbank 12-30-2005 06:06 AM

Re: $2/$5 NL ($300 max) hand at Turning Stone vs. 2+2er
 
Snow, I'm not trying to nitpick here, but why, o why, were you opening the first 2 hands for $13 to begin with? Even if you were raising with implied stuff, why not try to make it look like a real hand?

Because I'm crazy. That's the only explanation I have. Seriously.


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