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Garland 12-26-2005 06:10 PM

15/30 KK value bet the river?
 
Great loose game. The opponents are average and aggressive.

How's the line, and do you value bet the river given the all-in player?

Garland

Paradise Poker 15/30 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Garland is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Garland raises</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (7.66 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, Garland calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (5.33 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Garland raises</font>, UTG+1 calls all-in, UTG+2 calls.

River: (11.33 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> UTG+2 checks, Garland ???

sy_or_bust 12-26-2005 08:33 PM

Re: 15/30 KK value bet the river?
 
running bad?

12-26-2005 08:39 PM

Re: 15/30 KK value bet the river?
 
the way it's played that's an autobet.... I would raise the flop however to knock utg+1 off of A3

12-26-2005 08:44 PM

Re: 15/30 KK value bet the river?
 
I would bet. UTG+2 would lead the river with an 8 and if UTG+1 does indeed hold an 8, the extra BB gained from UTG+2 will make you feel a little better =]

Garland 12-26-2005 08:48 PM

Re: 15/30 KK value bet the river?
 
[ QUOTE ]
running bad?

[/ QUOTE ]

Actually, all in all, I've been running really good.

Garland

turtlestar 12-27-2005 12:11 AM

Re: 15/30 KK value bet the river?
 
IMO, a bet is in order. As has been noted, for an 8 to check seems ridiculous.

ts

SGS 12-27-2005 12:28 AM

Re: 15/30 KK value bet the river?
 
I really doubt from his play that he has an 8 and will call you with a lot of hands that you beat. I'd bet it.

SGS

Garland 12-27-2005 09:41 PM

Results and thoughts...
 
I think I like the idea of waiting until the turn to pop them. I'll risk the A not coming and with a paired board 99, I'm either way ahead or way behind. As it turned out, not raising the flop netted me 2 more big bets from UTG+1 who was drawing extremely thin.

I wussed out on the river though. I checked behind. Some of my "no-limit" mentality leaked through. I was shown UTG+1 = "QTo" for turned top pair and UTG+2 had "A7o".

Thanks for your thoughts.

Garland

goofball 12-27-2005 09:46 PM

Re: Results and thoughts...
 
very ez bet.


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