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stevepa 08-23-2005 10:20 PM

QQ vs Zeejustin - 2nd hand of Party Super Tuesday
 
So my first table has Zeejustin across the table from me. I know of him but frankly have no idea how he plays. I assume fairly tight and fairly aggressive.

On to the hand. Again, 2nd hand of the tourney so stacks are all ~1000, blinds 10/15. UTG raises to 45. I'm next to act with QQ and decide to just call. I would usually reraise here, I'm not entirely sure why I just called, but I did. Folded to Zeejustin in the cutoff who reraises to 145. UTG calls, what's the plan?

Steve

WillMagic 08-23-2005 10:23 PM

Re: QQ vs Zeejustin - 2nd hand of Party Super Tuesday
 
Call, flop a queen and bust them both.

Just try and come up with a better plan than that.

Will

locutus2002 08-23-2005 10:40 PM

Re: QQ vs Zeejustin - 2nd hand of Party Super Tuesday
 
Hero pushes.

It's dangerous for UTG to slowplay AA/KK with 3 players in the pot OOP. Zee might be raising with position with alot of speculative holdings. there's T300 in the pot, 30% of your stack, I'd go get it.

betgo 08-23-2005 10:44 PM

Re: QQ vs Zeejustin - 2nd hand of Party Super Tuesday
 
Push. UTG raiser is unlikely to have QQ beat, since he didn't put in a 3rd raise. Your push as caller seems strange (although Zeejustin would be aware you could be playing 2nd hand low with AA), so you might get a loose call. The play in the 1st round is fairly loose, so even a good player doesn't need a big pair to reraise.

There is a good chance a push will pick up the pot for a 315 chip gain. You are going to have to run into a bigger pair an awful lot to make up for that.

handsome 08-23-2005 10:48 PM

Re: QQ vs Zeejustin - 2nd hand of Party Super Tuesday
 
I like calling and taking a flop, for two reasons. One, I don't think ZJ would call an all-in preflop with a hand you have crushed, like JJ/TT/99. And two, blinds are small and you will still be in great shape if you fold on a flop with an ace or king (36%).

08-24-2005 12:05 AM

Re: QQ vs Zeejustin - 2nd hand of Party Super Tuesday
 
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I like calling and taking a flop, for two reasons. One, I don't think ZJ would call an all-in preflop with a hand you have crushed, like JJ/TT/99. And two, blinds are small and you will still be in great shape if you fold on a flop with an ace or king (36%).

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08-24-2005 01:17 AM

Re: QQ vs Zeejustin - 2nd hand of Party Super Tuesday
 
This is a no brainer. ZJ could have anything from AK, AQ, AJ or more likely medium pair and wanted everyone to fold pre flop with 150 raise. Reraise to 450 and see or push all in and be done with it. I'd like to know what ZJ had if you had the chance to see it.

Allinlife 08-24-2005 02:26 AM

Re: QQ vs Zeejustin - 2nd hand of Party Super Tuesday
 
I think push is awesome here given how hero played it thus far (call utg raise than push over) it will often be viewed as small~med pocket pair, maybe AK/AQ and you will get call from justin if he has 99~JJ for sure. I'd much prefer this line over playing QQ oop vs player like ZJ.

Maulik 08-24-2005 02:35 AM

Re: QQ vs Zeejustin - 2nd hand of Party Super Tuesday
 
I push. t300 is a lot of chips.

DonButtons 08-24-2005 05:17 AM

Re: QQ vs Zeejustin - 2nd hand of Party Super Tuesday
 
I think pushing is bad, very bad.

No way he has AQ/AJ here.

What you think ZJ has? Im putting it heavy on AA/KK vs a utg raiser, and ep caller...

I call, and hope for a Q high flop, and stacking him, but fold otherwise on the flop. It gets interesting when the the flop is KQ3 or AQ3 though.


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