Monster hand vs. overbet - do we fold?
 

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

SB ($27.80)
BB ($97.80)
Hero ($179.40)
MP ($47.70)
CO ($74.95)
Button ($94.80)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
Hero calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $1, Hero calls $1.

Flop: ($6.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $17</font>, Button folds, BB calls $90.80 (All-In), Hero calls $78.80.

Turn: ($198.10) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($198.10) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $198.10

Re: Monster hand vs. overbet - do we fold?
 

Your draw isn't as good as it seems. I fold

Re: Monster hand vs. overbet - do we fold?
 

I don't really see what hero is dominated by. A set?

Call and hope he doesn't have a set. If he does, we can still draw out.

Re: Monster hand vs. overbet - do we fold?
 

Ignoring the turn and river cards (IE as far as I know villain can have a K much easier) (and you should delete everything past your last action):

/me agrees with Fallen Hero. Your kings are obviously no good, so you are at best 1.5 to 1 behind (=fold). If bb has 44 you're behind even more than that.

Edit: ok BB only called a minraise, so your kicker might be ok (edit2: ignoring KQ...), so maybe you can call here. I think it's pretty close. I still like to have some fold equity if I'm playing this particular draw for my stack.

Re: Monster hand vs. overbet - do we fold?
 

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I don't really see what hero is dominated by. A set?

Call and hope he doesn't have a set. If he does, we can still draw out.

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44 and KQ. The only other hands I can see him doing this with is a nicely played ATc or a badly played AK, you're slightly behind AK and slightly ahead of ATc