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12-16-2005 05:54 PM

I hate AK....
 
***** Hand History for Game 3211636415 *****
$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, December 16, 16:41:35 EDT 2005
Table Table 65826 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10

seat7 is 50/14 over 34 hands
seat2 is 44/0 over 47 hands
seat10 is 34/6 over 50 hands



Seat 2: (seat2) ( $13.20 )
Seat 10: (seat10) ( $22.40 )
Seat 8: HERO ( $21.15 )
(seat6) posts small blind [$0.10].
(seat7) posts big blind [$0.25].

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to HERO [ K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
HERO raises [$2].
(seat9) folds.
(seat10) calls [$2].
(seat1) folds.
(seat2) calls [$2].
(seat3) folds. (seat4) folds. (seat5) folds. (seat6) folds.
(seat7) calls [$1.75].

** Dealing Flop (~$8)** [ J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ]
(seat7) bets [$1].
HERO calls [$1].
(seat10) calls [$1].
(seat2) folds.

** Dealing Turn (~$11) ** [ 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]
(seat7) bets [$2].
HERO folds.
(seat10) folds.

(seat7) does not show cards.
(seat7) wins $12.55

This felt REALLY weak.
What should I do with the flop with one player still to act? I called, hoping to see either a dimaond or ace for cheap. Board is pretty dry otherwise.

Is this a raise w/o another player to act after me?

BigBiceps 12-16-2005 06:00 PM

Re: I hate AK....
 
There are two players to act after you on the flop.

You played it fine, missed the flop and only lost $3 getting great odds on your money for when you hit your hand, with all the loose players calling.

AK is not a guaranteed win (I win with it only about 55%).

beavens 12-16-2005 06:03 PM

Re: I hate AK....
 
i would raise that flop.. betting 1/8th of the pot is weak as hell.

CallYNotRaise06 12-16-2005 06:11 PM

Re: I hate AK....
 
i can kinda go either way on this. seat 7 looks like a pretty agg player. i like raising the flop because that bet right there could be becuase hes putting you on AK/AQ. it looks like a feeler bet, and i dont want to give up the lead in the hand just because someone fired a turd bet into that pot. if i do call this on the flop, im raising the turn against another weak bet.

another line would be just calling like you did, i mean, youve got 2 other to act behind you on the flop, so you get to see what they do for relatively cheap, and you only have A high. given thoes odds, a call isnt bad at all.

12-16-2005 06:15 PM

Re: I hate AK....
 
beavens... even with 2 players to act after me?

beavens 12-16-2005 06:30 PM

Re: I hate AK....
 
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beavens... even with 2 players to act after me?

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yup - theyll most likely fold, but if they call or raise you can either reevaluate or fold respectively.

Hoopster81 12-16-2005 07:03 PM

Re: I hate AK....
 
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beavens... even with 2 players to act after me?

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yup - theyll most likely fold, but if they call or raise you can either reevaluate or fold respectively.

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This is a leak. OP's line is good.

beavens 12-16-2005 07:25 PM

Re: I hate AK....
 
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beavens... even with 2 players to act after me?

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yup - theyll most likely fold, but if they call or raise you can either reevaluate or fold respectively.

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This is a leak. OP's line is good.

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it's not a play you use all the time, but with seat 7 being a LAG he's going to be betting this flop with any 2. his bet is so little that he is either trying to pump up the pot with a draw, he's got a real hand or he's got [censored] and hopes we fold to his $1 bet. if we raise we can give him incorrect odds to call for his draw, and fold if he comes over the top at us.

granted with more people to act, this indeed does seem like bad advice, but i think we can isolate him HU with a raise.

12-16-2005 07:27 PM

Re: I hate AK....
 
hoopster - how much would you be willing to call here?
$2? $3? more?

Hoopster81 12-16-2005 07:34 PM

Re: I hate AK....
 
If this pot is heads-up, I am bombing that min-bet every time - no question. The problem is, there are two players to act after you. If one calls you are really in a spot on the turn.

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but i think we can isolate him HU with a raise.

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Well, we don't really have a hand here, so I don't think we want to isolate. We would definately be hoping for it to fold around.


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