Won $ when seeing flop
The original post in this thread and a reply by TeeJayorTJ concerning pTracker's W$WSF stat have me thinking.
Is this a useful stat? Because these guys are seeing a lot of flops (30+ VP$IP) and winning around 45% of the time they see a flop. Given that they presumably also win a lot of hands preflop, that's a lot of pots they're winning. So how is this done? Getting to showdown a lot? Finding opponents who are really good at folding? Or just plain running good? My W$WSF has always been 38-39. Do I just suck? Guy. |
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38 here, when I was running bad, and 40 when I was running good.
VPIP aroun 22 38WTSD 51WON@SD |
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I don't think you should look at this stat without also considering VP$IP, WTSD%, and W$SD. This number doesn't tell you much in isolation.
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W$WSF 44%
W$SD 54% WtSD 37% VPIP 25% PFR 20% How good am I running? Well, I know I'm running good cause I'm like 4.5 BB/100 over the 6.5k hands or so this is at $10/20. |
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I know winning stats vary quite a bit, and crunching numbers certainly isn't the best way to improve. But out of curiosity, can anyone see obvious gameplay flaws in the following numbers? These are from 11.3k hands of 1/2 and 2/4 6-max, at an underwhelming .59BB/100 (my first three weeks of SH).
W$WSF 36.48% VP$IP 21.78 PFR 14.48 WTSD 32.86 W$@SD 51.02 AF 2.80 Thanks. |
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At 10/20...
19,791 hands 25.09 VP$IP 44.13 W$WSF 32.8 WTSD 55.05 W$@SD W$WSF is scaring the [censored] out of me because it suggests I'm running very good, which my winrate does not agree with. The other stats don't seem to reflect running quite as good either. |
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But out of curiosity, can anyone see obvious gameplay flaws in the following numbers? [/ QUOTE ] Nope, but it looks like you're running bad. So don't stress about your BB/100 for now. |
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like almost all pokertracker stats its not much good in isolation - ie isolation from other stats and isolation from the winning plan
one of the poker deitys from these boards once posted some stats for 10/20 6 max which were something like - WTSD 40%, W$@SD 49%, W$WSF 42, VP$IP 28% - despite winning less than half the showdowns they got to they were beating the game for plenty - the rationale was that a loosish very aggro style meant he was obliged to call down a lot when he had some showdown potential i know a rock who went around at about 2BB's/100 in the 5/10 6 max game with WTSD 33%, W$@SD 57%, W$WSF 37%, VP$IP 22% - not sure if thats exactly right but its close - certainly in the 5/10 game i think your WTSD% should be lower than in the 10/20 game but these stats otherwise present a considerable comparison for winning strategies stripsqueez - chickenhawk |
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