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djr 12-07-2005 12:17 AM

lucky bastard catches the case ace
 
7 Card Stud High ($2/$4), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $1 (converter)

3rd Street - (0.88 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___Fold
Seat 3: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___Raise___Fold
Seat 4: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___Call___Call
Hero: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___Raise
Seat 6: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___Call
Seat 7: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___Fold
Seat 8: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___Bring-in___Call

obviously I didn't put seat 3 on aces so I thought a raise was in order to knock as many out as possible. I really didn't like seat 6 cold calling

4th Street - (9.88 SB)

Seat 4: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___Check___Call
Hero: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___Bet
Seat 6: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___Check___Call
Seat 8: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___Check___Call

5th Street - (6.94 BB)

Seat 4: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___Check___Fold
Hero: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___Bet
Seat 6: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___Check___Call
Seat 8: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___Check___Call

bastard grabs the ace. Who doesn't think he has two pair?

6th Street - (9.94 BB)

Hero: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___Check
Seat 6: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___Check
Seat 8: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___Check

I'm pretty sure seat 8 is on a draw, but since I'm also sure the other guy has aces up do I bet?

River - (9.94 BB)

Hero: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___Check
Seat 6: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] xx___Check
Seat 8: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] xx___Check

Total pot: (9.94 BB)

preiserone 12-07-2005 01:42 AM

Re: lucky bastard catches the case ace
 
what is seat 3 doin on third, i've never seen someone fold for 1 bet after a ridiculous steal at 2/4, watch out for him,lol


If you don't think he has aces up yet on 6th I think you should put a bet in and try to knock out seat 8, but there isn't much else you can do with 2 pair v. aces, against someone with some third street discipline he has to have you beat or have a flush draw to go with his aces on 6th.

mscags 12-07-2005 01:47 AM

Re: lucky bastard catches the case ace
 
Why do you think he doesn't have aces up on fifth but he does on sixth?

preiserone 12-07-2005 01:54 AM

Re: lucky bastard catches the case ace
 
great point, if your going to bet it fifth there isn't much reason to stop when he hits a 5 on 6th

benwood 12-07-2005 03:59 AM

Re: lucky bastard catches the case ace
 
It seems to me that when you bet 5th, it gave him a perfect opportunity to raise & try to thin the field. When he only calls,your chance of him not having A's up is better,imo.So bet 6th.

blumpkin22 12-07-2005 04:07 AM

Re: lucky bastard catches the case ace
 
Just check fifth and be done with it. He might have aces up already, he might get there, who knows. It's reverse implied odds. He got lucky. Okay, next hand.

Edit: On the other hand, these people are such donkeys that I guess the likelihood that he doesn't have two pair is pretty high. But again, this is risky territory.

Roland 12-07-2005 05:56 AM

Re: lucky bastard catches the case ace
 
[ QUOTE ]
what is seat 3 doin on third, i've never seen someone fold for 1 bet after a ridiculous steal at 2/4, watch out for him,lol

[/ QUOTE ]

That was me, folding buried queens. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

djr 12-07-2005 03:51 PM

Re: lucky bastard catches the case ace
 
I thought he did have aces up on 5th. But when it got checked around to me I just couldn't help betting. Worst thing to happen is not betting and let one of the other two catch some miracle straight for free. Besides it's fun to push two-outers [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

When 5th was not raised by aces I was a little lost. I couldn't see him chasing 3rd and 4th without some kind of pair in the hole unless he was a total donk. Perhaps he was sitting on a boat and wanted to keep seat 8 in by not raising. Doubtful but we've all seen worse.

But here's a question...Now that 6th was checked around and so was 7th, should I bet? It looks like aces will call no matter what (ahead or behind), but I doubt he's raising with anything short of a boat. Is this a value bet here?


Results: I won kings up. Aces started with....3 diamonds.


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