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ClaytonN 12-21-2005 10:41 AM

3/6 AK hand
 
Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, BB calls.

Turn: (4.66 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

River: (7.66 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, BB folds, Hero cries and folds.

Final Pot: 10.66 BB

standard? who bets the turn? who checkcalls river given a turn checkcall?

jt1 12-21-2005 10:48 AM

Re: 3/6 AK hand
 
I don't like betting the turn into a pre-flop cold caller. Here, I think I would, but I would have gotten raised. The river I play the same hoping for AQ after I'm raised.

12-21-2005 10:54 AM

Re: 3/6 AK hand
 
Checking the turn definitely makes sense, and you're pretty close between calling and folding. I'd lean towards the fold, actually. As for the river, I like it. Check/calling gets you nothing when you're ahead and costs you when you're behind. Bet/folding means you lose or win the same amount whether behind or ahead, which seems fair.

Edit: Totally missed that hero has the A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Whoops. All things considered, I like the line.

winky51 12-21-2005 10:57 AM

Re: 3/6 AK hand
 
I think I would probably bet the turn. Button or BB would check raise with 2 pair on the flop considering the board has a double draw IMO.

betting the turn might get but or BB to fold a hand like KT.

You also have 13 outs to the nuts and possible 3-6 for a pair. Even if you get raised here at least you know you will get called on the river with the nuts if you hit.

winky51 12-21-2005 10:59 AM

Re: 3/6 AK hand
 
I don't know. he might just have KQ or Q9s. I think betting is better. BUT with TT or JJ would reraise SH. So what does he have? AJ maybe he would reraise PF, JTs? Thats 1 hand. I just found betting all the time scares people to fold or wins extra bets. With check with 13-19 outs?

Spartan1983 12-21-2005 11:01 AM

Re: 3/6 AK hand
 
Haven't read any other responses. I lead the turn, otherwise that board is just inviting someone to scare bet you. If you get raised then you can probably lay it down. Some reads on the other players obviously would be helpful.

edit. missed the A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], just means I bet the turn and definately call a raise.

winky51 12-21-2005 11:02 AM

Re: 3/6 AK hand
 
ahh someone agrees with me betting the turn.

Spartan1983 12-21-2005 11:05 AM

Re: 3/6 AK hand
 
I'm with you. Reads would be real helpful in this situation. You know Lag's are going to bet any scare card if you give them a chance. I like to keep the initiative against them if I can.

MATT111 12-21-2005 11:20 AM

Re: 3/6 AK hand
 
[ QUOTE ]
ahh someone agrees with me betting the turn.

[/ QUOTE ]

I`m with you too. We`d love to fold out AQ which I consider the classic coldcalling hand (although I think this probable does not go with 6-max).

Benman 12-21-2005 11:23 AM

Re: 3/6 AK hand
 
I would have bet the turn (lots of nut outs, some other outs) and seen the showdown on the river by some method (I'm sorry, when the river arrives by a different line than I would have taken I have trouble figuring how to play it, other than top pair seems worth a call at 8.66 to 1 at minimum).


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