$109s - A3 Bluff
 

I want a call on the turn. Is that mental?
Villain is decent, but a bit aggro.
He's shown he can lay down hands.
My cards here are irrelevant btw.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP (t840)
CO (t1660)
Button (t1335)
SB (t3175)
Hero (t2185)
UTG (t805)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t300</font>, Hero calls t150.

Flop: (t600) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t300</font>, Hero calls t300.

Turn: (t1200) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t300</font>, SB folds.

Final Pot: t1500

Re: $109s - A3 Bluff
 

If you suspect he folds to a big river bet after calling the turn over 95% of the time (not totally unreasonable), then yes, root for the turn call. Otherwise, I think taking it down now is better.

Re: $109s - A3 Bluff
 

Very nicely played. Wanting a turn call looks mental to me but what do I know.

Re: $109s - A3 Bluff
 

Nh.

How often does a 1/4 pot bet get a fold on the turn in the 109s? I assume you fold to a check/push.

Incidentally, I don't think your cards are irrelevant. You certainly gain at least a little EV from that fact that he could have a decent hand and you could make two pair/trips to double up.

Re: $109s - A3 Bluff
 

If he does call here with a hand like Ah/Jd or Kh/Jd then he has the nut flush draw or second flush draw and if another heart comes you could lose a substantial amount with a big over bet. So I'd like to take it down here hoping my opponent was just making a continuation bet and realizes he's done with the hand.

Re: $109s - A3 Bluff
 

Nice to have you back posting [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I think it is a bit mental to want a call considering the size of the pot on the turn. But if he does call, his hand should be pretty easy to read.

Love the bluff call on the flop. Considering the 3 hearts on the board, do you think you bet enough on the turn? Or do you think he calls 1000 or 300 with a good heart, so it doesn't matter?

Re: $109s - A3 Bluff
 

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I want a call on the turn. Is that mental?

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I'd like it if his hand range was more narrow. As it stands, I don't think such a small bet trying to induce a call from a mediocre-weak-hand-so-I-can-push-you-off-it-on-the-river is going to be profitable often enough.

Re: $109s - A3 Bluff
 

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Incidentally, I don't think your cards are irrelevant. You certainly gain at least a little EV from that fact that he could have a decent hand and you could make two pair/trips to double up.

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I was going to make this point, but you already said it. I'm not saying that a different course of action is more EV, but the EV scales for alternative lines are not as skewed in one direction anymore now that you have some showdown value.

Re: $109s - A3 Bluff
 

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I want a call on the turn. Is that mental?

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I wouldn't say it's mental. I'd say its more like FPS. You obviously are wishing that he a naked ace of hearts and want to have him throw in an extra t300 in an effort to take down a bigger pot on the river.

How'd I do?

Re: $109s - A3 Bluff
 

If he calls, the river's a blank, and he checks, do you check behind or bet?