Re: $11 Bubble: Do I push this?
 

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Id say no on both. Maybe on 1 and I think its a definite no on 2.

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Pushing hand 1 is not even close to a maybe. You are 3rd place with 4 left, its ridiculously huge -EV to push there.

Re: $11 Bubble: Do I push this?
 

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Pushing hand 1 is not even close to a maybe. You are 3rd place with 4 left, its ridiculously huge -EV to push there.

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My initial reaction when reading that the OP was thinking of pushing hand one was, "Are you on crack?"

Not the most in depth analysis, but jeez...

Re: $11 Bubble: Do I push this?
 

Well, I didn't push either of these hands, and I'm glad I didn't. Thanks for the replies [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] And, no I was not on crack when I played (at least I don't think). I think my bubble play is better than 90% of the donks at the $10+$1's right now, but I know there is lots of room for improvement.

I was re-reading MJ's blind stealing article the other day and it got me thinking more about situation where it is +EV to push any two. What I forget sometimes is that his analysis is from the SB looking to steal the BB. What we find out, is that if either you (the SB) or the BB has <10BB stack, then it is +EV to push ANY 2 cards there.

Can anyone think of any other situations where this applies?

Re: $11 Bubble: Do I push this?
 

MJ's article is all about chipEV.. it's flawed on many levels, especially on the bubble.

It is often times wrong to think of it as "What we find out, is that if either you (the SB) or the BB has <10BB stack, then it is +EV to push ANY 2 cards there." because this simply is not true.

Eg.

UTG 1 chip
Btn 1 chip
You 3000 chips
BB 4000 chips

Blinds 200/400

UTG folds, Btn folds.

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Re: $11 Bubble: Do I push this?
 

Haha, point taken tigerite. The point I mentioned about pushing any 2 relies on more factors than just the BB and SB stacks. Clearly, if another player is about to bust out, you should play very cautiously. The GAP is huge, and you shouldn't be calling ANYTHING, and I would only push with TT+ probably...

Re: $11 Bubble: Do I push this?
 

lol I definetly misread the hand. Didnt realize he was UTG.