Was this a stupid call?
 

Wondering if I should have pushed the flop, although it wouldn't have made a difference to the outcome. I just couldn't lay down my flush draw + gutshot straight :-p

PokerStars Game #3369158459: Tournament #16696903, Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2005/12/18 - 16:10:31 (ET)
Table '16696903 1' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: HERO (4105 in chips)
Seat 5: VILLIAN (4170 in chips)
Seat 6: Mbogey23 (5225 in chips)
HERO: posts the ante 25
VILLIAN: posts the ante 25
Mbogey23: posts the ante 25
Mbogey23: posts small blind 100
HERO: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [Jd 4d]
VILLIAN: calls 200
Mbogey23: calls 100
HERO: checks
*** FLOP *** [2h 3d 6d]
Mbogey23: checks
HERO: bets 600
VILLIAN: raises 3345 to 3945 and is all-in
Mbogey23: folds
HERO: calls 3280 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [2h 3d 6d] [Js]
*** RIVER *** [2h 3d 6d Js] [8h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
HERO: shows [Jd 4d] (a pair of Jacks)
VILLIAN: shows [Ac Ah] (a pair of Aces)
VILLIAN collected 8435 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8435 | Rake 0
Board [2h 3d 6d Js 8h]
Seat 2: HERO (big blind) showed [Jd 4d] and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 5: VILLIAN (button) showed [Ac Ah] and won (8435) with a pair of Aces
Seat 6: Mbogey23 (small blind) folded on the Flop

Re: Was this a stupid call?
 

Not really. Its a gambling call...but not really a BAD one...

It turns out you only had 12 outs for 45% ish to win the hand with ... 1.5 to 1 on your money... (I do that right?)

Won't the villian show you top pair or an underpair to your jacks a fair amount of the time? That would bump you to 15 outs and the stat favorite.

Its a gamble, but not bad overall...

Re: Was this a stupid call?
 

The blinds are tiny portion of your stack. I don't see the purpose of this call, please elaborate.

Re: Was this a stupid call?
 

you've got 20xBB. you can definitely find better spots than this.... 1.53:1 on your money.

it comes down to this: do you want to be flipping coins for your tournament life when you are otherwise in very comfortable shape?

Re: Was this a stupid call?
 

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you've got 20xBB. you can definitely find better spots than this.... 1.53:1 on your money.

it comes down to this: do you want to be flipping coins for your tournament life when you are otherwise in very comfortable shape?

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You said what I was thinking....I said it poorly. NH.

p.s. I hate folding Straight+Flush draws and would probably call if I thought I had 15 outs. Its an admitted leak.

Re: Was this a stupid call?
 

of course, folding straight+flush draws isn't necessarily a leak... it just is in this particular case.

Re: Was this a stupid call?
 

I like shoving on a flop with my draws, not calling an all-in. Big difference!

Re: Was this a stupid call?
 

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I like shoving on a flop with my draws, not calling an all-in. Big difference!

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True...but is calling with 15 or more outs really such a leak?

Re: Was this a stupid call?
 

Me either. And the villain has an almost even stack too.Bad.
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