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KSakuraba 07-25-2005 09:55 AM

Am i thinking this right?
 
Have been in table for only for a while but my notes say villian is a decent thinking player.

Texas Hold'em No Limit EUR 2,00/4,00 - 8-handed


Villian (EUR 888,44 in seat 5)
Sakuraba (EUR 399,00 in seat 8)

Sakuraba was dealt: Th - Jh

Villian(MP) Raise (16,00)
Sakuraba(CO) Call (16,00)
SB&BB fold

Flop Kc - 9h - Qs (pot 38€)

Veespen Bet (26,00)
Sakuraba Call (26,00)

Turn Kc - 9h - Qs - 6h (pot 90€)

Villian Bet (60,00)
Sakuraba Raise (180,00)
Villian Call (120,00)

River Kc - 9h - Qs - 6h - Qd (pot 450€)

Villian Bet (200)
Sakuraba???

I know the implied odds are huge but could anyone really have called that turn raise with anything but KK,QQ or KQ...maybe AA, but thats the only one i'm ahead.

Should i fold this or am i just being weak-tight?

Also comments on other streets appreciated...thanks guys.

Leptyne 07-25-2005 11:47 AM

Re: Am i thinking this right?
 
Your post is very difficult to read. I don't mind the euros, but the format is a problem.

It looks like you flopped the straight, then called villain. Now is the time to raise and try to build a pot so you can push the turn. I'd fold to what looks like a full house.

fsuplayer 07-25-2005 11:52 AM

Re: Am i thinking this right?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Your post is very difficult to read. I don't mind the euros, but the format is a problem.


[/ QUOTE ]

599,00 is equal to our 599.00

invisibleleadsoup 07-25-2005 12:51 PM

Re: Am i thinking this right?
 
raspy
it looks like you do have to fold,he does have to have a house unless he's a known maniac
this is a situation in which you couldn't have asked for more on the flop and turn,and the river was the worst possible card

just curse your luck and fold,i suppose

thabadguy 07-25-2005 02:47 PM

Re: Am i thinking this right?
 
[ QUOTE ]
raspy
it looks like you do have to fold,he does have to have a house unless he's a known maniac
this is a situation in which you couldn't have asked for more on the flop and turn,and the river was the worst possible card

just curse your luck and fold,i suppose

[/ QUOTE ]
I hope you're not serious.

Walter 07-25-2005 02:57 PM

Re: Am i thinking this right?
 
Keep in mind that hero smooth called the flop meaning that no reason villain puts him on the nuts.

The turn brought a flush draw, so villain's call doesn't have to mean a huge hand b/c he may have picked up something extra to his one pair (could have Kx hearts or Qx hearts) and/or thought it was a semi-bluff raise.

On the river, trip queens would almost certainly bet out, and he may have thought that the queens counterfeited your two pair. Too many possible hands that would bet to lay it down.

Despite the precipitious state of the good old greenback, 2Euro/4Euro isn't that much more than 2/4 $US.

creedofhubris 07-25-2005 06:59 PM

Re: Am i thinking this right?
 
Several hands might bet this scare card. Don't fold here. Don't raise, of course, but 3:1 is enough to call.


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