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schwza 07-21-2005 11:19 AM

battle of blinds on bubble
 
BB had been reasonable/tight.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter

UTG (t790)
Button (t2340)
Hero (t1575)
BB (t3295)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, hero?

tigerite 07-21-2005 11:20 AM

Re: battle of blinds on bubble
 
Pushes and it isn't close

Nicholasp27 07-21-2005 11:21 AM

Re: battle of blinds on bubble
 
push

u gain 20% of ur stack if u steal...he'll call with &lt;20% of hands if he's being reasonable/tight

i'd feel better about it if he had the 2200 stack, not the 3k stack, but it's still +ev to push, so push it

wildzer0 07-21-2005 11:21 AM

Re: battle of blinds on bubble
 
For me, this is an insta-push. I don't have eastbay's calc here so I can't run the numbers, but I think this is pretty clear.

durron597 07-21-2005 11:22 AM

Re: battle of blinds on bubble
 
I fold this. You can't put enough pressure on the BB to make him fold a hand like A9, KQ, or 77. Plus UTG is going to be very desperate very soon.

Your stack size is right around the point where UTG folds most hands you are a 60/40 against and calls with hands where are you are 70/30 or worse. And the 300 chips in the pot aren't worth it IMO.

Edit: if UTG's stack and Button's stack were both 1500 or so this is a push. Also if BB's stack and Button's stack were reversed this is a push.

Edit2: if you had 200 fewer chips also it is a push. I think all the details are exactly unfavorable enough to make it not a push.

wiggs73 07-21-2005 11:25 AM

Re: battle of blinds on bubble
 
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I fold this. You can't put enough pressure on the BB to make him fold a hand like A9, KQ, or 77. Plus UTG is going to be very desperate very soon.

Your stack size is right around the point where UTG folds most hands you are a 60/40 against and calls with hands where are you are 70/30 or worse. And the 300 chips in the pot aren't worth it IMO.

Edit: if UTG's stack and Button's stack were both 1500 or so this is a push. Also if BB's stack and Button's stack were reversed this is a push.

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SammyKid11 07-21-2005 11:29 AM

Re: battle of blinds on bubble
 
Well, I ran this through SnGPT and it came out with exactly what Durron said...very close but a push here is slightly -EV. All about the short stack and his level of danger.

durron597 07-21-2005 11:33 AM

Re: battle of blinds on bubble
 
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Well, I ran this through SnGPT and it came out with exactly what Durron said...very close but a push here is slightly -EV. All about the short stack and his level of danger.

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Woot @ gut instinct!

I really should buy SnGPT though.

schwza 07-21-2005 11:40 AM

Re: battle of blinds on bubble
 
[ QUOTE ]
Well, I ran this through SnGPT and it came out with exactly what Durron said...very close but a push here is slightly -EV. All about the short stack and his level of danger.

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that's a pretty ridiculous statement to drop without saying villain's calling range.

Nicholasp27 07-21-2005 11:49 AM

Re: battle of blinds on bubble
 
is it -ev for any calling range of opp? or only for certain calling ranges?


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