20/40 with Maniac - Tough Turn for JJ
 

CO is a COMPLETE maniac 95/12/3.5 over 100 or so hands. UTG+2 is a bit LAGish, but nothing totally out of hand.

Party Poker 20/40 Hold'em (6 max, 10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, MP2 folds, CO calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero folds, UTG+2 calls.

River: (11.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, UTG+2 calls.

Final Pot: 13.75 BB

If I 3-bet the flop, how much easier does this hand play itself?

Re: 20/40 with Maniac - Tough Turn for JJ
 

Were you planning on calling down? If so, I don't think you should fold the turn here. If there is any chance UTG folds a K or some 5 out draw I would 3-bet the turn.

Re: 20/40 with Maniac - Tough Turn for JJ
 

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Were you planning on calling down? If so, I don't think you should fold the turn here. If there is any chance UTG folds a K or some 5 out draw I would 3-bet the turn.

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I'm not sure what you mean by your first two sentences exactly. Can you explain it a different way?

There is no way UTG+2 is going to fold a K here if I threebet the turn, and prob not any piece of the flop.

Re: 20/40 with Maniac - Tough Turn for JJ
 

I assume you posted this because your hand was good.

It's always easier to play a maniac heads up.

Folding on the turn in reasonable. I don't think you will make money in the long run calling down double turn bets cold and the river in these situations.

Three betting the flop may not help as utg+2 may cap leaving you in the same spot. Just calling the raise and leading the turn may have been best.

Re: 20/40 with Maniac - Tough Turn for JJ
 

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Three betting the flop may not help as utg+2 may cap leaving you in the same spot. Just calling the raise and leading the turn may have been best.

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I like this line best. Anyone else agree?