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willie 12-13-2005 11:49 PM

GIGABET.
 
currently second in chips at the 5 diamond classic...

ruh rohhh!!!

DHamilton97 12-14-2005 02:39 AM

Re: GIGABET.
 
Does anyone know if he plays cash games at all ? Or is he just a tournament player ?

Daliman 12-14-2005 03:04 AM

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Does anyone know if he plays cash games at all ? Or is he just a tournament player ?

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Mostly tourneys, but he is also a significant winner in cash games.

Apathy 12-14-2005 04:30 AM

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good to hear, good luck gigabet.

aLOWdAkING 12-14-2005 04:44 AM

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GL man.

psyduck 12-14-2005 05:18 AM

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Does anyone know if he plays cash games at all ? Or is he just a tournament player ?

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Mostly tourneys, but he is also a significant winner in cash games.

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curious, what exactly does he play?

watching players like gigabet and phil ivey is SO [censored] fun.

flo 12-14-2005 11:08 AM

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GOGOGO!

TheMainEvent 12-14-2005 11:50 AM

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Sucks having Doyle sitting two seats to your left with almost as many chips as you though.

Degen 12-14-2005 02:13 PM

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Does anyone know if he plays cash games at all ? Or is he just a tournament player ?

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Mostly tourneys, but he is also a significant winner in cash games.

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curious, what exactly does he play?

watching players like gigabet and phil ivey is SO [censored] fun.

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whatever he pleases

he final tabled in an OMAHA tourney at the WSOP last year, Scott Fischman called him the 'genius of poker'...i'm sure Giga is a massive winner in any form of poker he plays

UMTerp 12-14-2005 05:26 PM

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Per pokerwire, Giga just doubled through the chipleader... details to come. He may have a monster lead now, though we don't know what transpired in the first hour of play.

UMTerp 12-14-2005 05:29 PM

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Here it is:

Darrell Dicken doubles thorugh Patrik Antonius
Pre-flop Darrell Dicken raised, Patrik Antonius re-raised and Dicken called. On a flop of J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] with about 47K in the pot Dicken bet out, Antonius pushed all in, and Dicken called all in for 409.2K. The players turned up:

Darrell Dicken 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Patrik Antonius K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

The turn and river came 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and Dicken took the pot with his two pair increasing his stack to about 885K. Antonius was left with about 410K after the hand.

From twodimes:
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing Js 7d 5d
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
7c 5h 486 49.09 504 50.91 0 0.00 0.491
Kd Jd 504 50.91 486 49.09 0 0.00 0.509

DONTUSETHIS 12-14-2005 05:36 PM

Re: GIGABET.
 
He just doubled up through the chip leader. He is new chip leader with over 800k.

durron597 12-14-2005 05:38 PM

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From twodimes:
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing Js 7d 5d
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
7c 5h 486 49.09 504 50.91 0 0.00 0.491
Kd Jd 504 50.91 486 49.09 0 0.00 0.509

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Don't fold coinflips when there's a ton of extra money in the pot!

12-14-2005 05:40 PM

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How much were the two raises preflop? Blinds, position?

UMTerp 12-14-2005 05:43 PM

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How much were the two raises preflop?

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Blinds were 1500/3000 with a 400 ante, so judging by the update that says there was 47K in when the flop was seen, I'd guess Giga raised to like 8K and Patrick made it 20K maybe? I dunno. Both seem low. These update sites have been known to botch the chip counts on occasion.

It's certainly possible it was SB vs. BB, as I don't know either of their seating positions (Giga wasn't at Antonius' table at the start of the day).

12-14-2005 05:52 PM

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I bet Antonius has smoke coming out of his ears right now.

Aceshigh7 12-14-2005 05:53 PM

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That looks to be a horrible play by Gigabet. He got very lucky.

suckbot 12-14-2005 05:57 PM

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That looks to be a horrible play by Gigabet. He got very lucky.

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Dunno... people would have to be pretty nervous tangling with him now. Calling down hands like that means you could have anything under there. Just the sort of crazy play that wins big tournaments.

12-14-2005 05:57 PM

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Not that poor a move by Gigabet. He made a play at the pot w/ a $9k bet, called the raise. I'm sure if the flop missed he would've been out of the hand. Don't think he thought it was a coinflip when all the $$ went in. Probably thought 2 pr was more than good.

UMTerp 12-14-2005 06:01 PM

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Huge overbet by Antonius on the flop. Giga may have been slightly confused at that too.

Salva135 12-14-2005 06:02 PM

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Hard to believe that with two players of their style that it wouldn't have all gone into the middle no matter what.

12-14-2005 06:13 PM

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That looks to be a horrible play by Gigabet. He got very lucky.

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You can't say that until you know the the raise sizes and who was in what blind (if any). Also any history of BSB play/raising/stealing from either of those two.

DesertCat 12-14-2005 06:40 PM

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He probably put Antonious on either a big pair or AdKd. In those cases he was way ahead.

Daliman 12-14-2005 08:05 PM

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That looks to be a horrible play by Gigabet. He got very lucky.

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Degen 12-14-2005 08:33 PM

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That looks to be a horrible play by Gigabet. He got very lucky.

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tard

Aceshigh7 12-14-2005 09:30 PM

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That looks to be a horrible play by Gigabet. He got very lucky.

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tard

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Wow, how intelligent. If you disagree with what I said, explain how it was incorrect. Idiot.

yvesaint 12-14-2005 09:33 PM

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That looks to be a horrible play by Gigabet. He got very lucky.

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tard

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Wow, how intelligent. If you disagree with what I said, explain how it was incorrect. Idiot.

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dude theres so many factors that come into play that you cant really be qualified to call Gigabet an idiot

image

blind battle

their reads of each other

physically how the hand played out

etc. etc....

Aceshigh7 12-14-2005 09:34 PM

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Umm, I never called Gigabet an idiot. Degen is the idiot.

And if Antonius made anything close to a standard sized reraise, calling with 75off to see a flop was a poor play.

The only way I could see it not being a poor play was if Antonius made the minimum reraise, and even then it's iffy.

Fallen Hero 12-14-2005 10:09 PM

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Umm, I never called Gigabet an idiot. Degen is the idiot.

And if Antonius made anything close to a standard sized reraise, calling with 75off to see a flop was a poor play.

The only way I could see it not being a poor play was if Antonius made the minimum reraise, and even then it's iffy.

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yes,please teach gigabet how to play poker :| yes, i realize good players make poor plays too, that doesn't not aply to simple stuff like calling a reraise with X hand.

Jbrochu 12-14-2005 11:37 PM

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And if Antonius made anything close to a standard sized reraise, calling with 75off to see a flop was a poor play.


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There is no way you can say that, it's totally false. When you're a LAG you cannot just roll over every time somebody plays back at you. At least, not in anything more advanced than $33 Party SnG's.

FoxwoodsFiend 12-14-2005 11:49 PM

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And if Antonius made anything close to a standard sized reraise, calling with 75off to see a flop was a poor play.


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There is no way you can say that, it's totally false. When you're a LAG you cannot just roll over every time somebody plays back at you. At least, not in anything more advanced than $33 Party SnG's.

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I can't believe everybody's knocking AcesHigh as some sort of idiot for pointing out that calling a reraise with 57o is a bad play. It just swells the pot and it's almost a certainty that the only way you're winning the pot is by bluffing, which will now be VERY expensive and also very risky because your reraising opponent would have to not get a piece of the flop. In other words, that's a lot of chips to risk later on in the hand on the off chance your opponent has nothing AND misses the flop when you could just fold your 57. LAGs can't profitably be run over. And they also can't profitably call every time they're reraised. I would say 57o is on the "fold" end of that spectrum.

Jbrochu 12-15-2005 12:00 AM

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I can't believe everybody's knocking AcesHigh as some sort of idiot for pointing out that calling a reraise with 57o is a bad play.

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I didn't call him an idiot, just expressed my opinion that his statement was wrong. Without knowing the table dynamics, reads, possible tells, etc. his statement that the call was bad is just plain false.




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LAGs can't profitably be run over. And they also can't profitably call every time they're reraised. I would say 57o is on the "fold" end of that spectrum.

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Agreed that normally it's a fold, but maybe this guy had played back at him once or twice and he let the hands go?

The statement "if Antonius made anything close to a standard sized reraise, calling with 75off to see a flop was a poor play" is false without knowing the entire situation.

PickyTooth 12-15-2005 12:04 AM

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they're playing with really deep stacks. Calling a reraise with it isn't bad at all. Even if all it could do is please shania

Fallen Hero 12-15-2005 12:38 AM

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And if Antonius made anything close to a standard sized reraise, calling with 75off to see a flop was a poor play.


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There is no way you can say that, it's totally false. When you're a LAG you cannot just roll over every time somebody plays back at you. At least, not in anything more advanced than $33 Party SnG's.

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I can't believe everybody's knocking AcesHigh as some sort of idiot for pointing out that calling a reraise with 57o is a bad play. It just swells the pot and it's almost a certainty that the only way you're winning the pot is by bluffing, which will now be VERY expensive and also very risky because your reraising opponent would have to not get a piece of the flop. In other words, that's a lot of chips to risk later on in the hand on the off chance your opponent has nothing AND misses the flop when you could just fold your 57. LAGs can't profitably be run over. And they also can't profitably call every time they're reraised. I would say 57o is on the "fold" end of that spectrum.

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they are (were) #1 and #2 in chips

ekw 12-15-2005 12:46 AM

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It doesn't work that way.

UMTerp 12-15-2005 12:47 AM

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UPDATED CHIP COUNT AS OF 11:45 EST (per Pokerwire):
Blinds 5K/10K, 1K ante

Place Poker Player Chip Count
1 Patrik Antonius $ 980,000
2 Joe Cassidy $ 905,000

3 James Van Alstyne $ 820,000
4 Darrell Dicken $ 808,000
5 Brad Booth $ 670,000
6 Ron Kirk $ 660,000
7 Adam Friedman $ 655,000
8 Doyle Brunson $ 595,000

9 Joanne 'J.J.' Liu $ 590,000
10 Phil Laak $ 565,000
11 Eskimo Clark $ 540,000
12 Mike Gracz $ 510,000
13 Frank Vizza $ 480,000
14 Bengt Sonnert $ 460,000
15 David Levi $ 440,000
16 Peter Costa $ 430,000
17 Barny Boatman $ 420,000
18 Jeff Rine $ 400,000
19 Joe Sebok $ 390,000
20 Brian Lamkin $ 360,000
21 Loi Phan $ 350,000
22 Dwayne Moyers $ 330,000
23 Jeff Littlefield $ 326,000
24 Woody Van Stratum $ 320,000
25 Davood Mehrmand $ 300,000
26 Jesse Jones $ 270,000
27 Rehne Pedersen $ 260,000
28 Kermit Beasley $ 259,000
29 Marco Traniello $ 240,000
30 Dennis Waterman $ 220,000
31 Barry Greenstein $ 210,000
32 Rod Hurlbut $ 200,000
33 Glynn Beebe $ 200,000
34 Steve Rassi $ 170,000
35 Mads Andersen $ 145,000
36 Jeff King $ 125,000
37 Jason Song $ 125,000
38 Don Zewin $ 112,000
39 Michael Yoshino $ 103,000
40 Noah Jefferson $ 100,000
41 Terri Evanowski $ 95,000
42 Ray Sanchez $ 94,000

ismisus 12-15-2005 01:33 AM

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Gigabet is a genius, because many people do not understand when to play (7 5) and make it EV+ for a particular situation

TheMainEvent 12-15-2005 03:11 AM

WOW
 
Joe Cassidy just called a 200K raise from Antonius after leading 120K with A7 high on a 965QJ board and his hand was good. I am speechless.

Autocratic 12-15-2005 03:14 AM

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Joe Cassidy just called a 200K raise from Antonius after leading 120K with A7 high on a 965QJ board and his hand was good. I am speechless.

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I'll never be a great poker player.

flatline 12-15-2005 03:25 AM

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With the board showing 9s-6d-5d-Qh-Jh on the river, Joe Cassidy bets $120,000 into a $500,000 pot, and Patrik Antonius raises to $320,000. Cassidy makes an incredible call with Ad-7c (ace high). Sure enough, Antonius shows Ah-3d, and Cassidy's kicker plays to win the entire pot.

Joe Cassidy is our new chip leader with approximately $1.45 million, while Antonius is down to $500,000.

>>>>>>>>

unreal


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