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GutPunch 12-19-2005 04:25 AM

crippling pot odds, steal gone wrong.
 
Getting about 2.2:1 here.

I have a fairly tight image. Have seen that this guy is willing to gamble and take a flip ect. Other than that, not a very strong read.

These situations seem to ALWAYS get me in trouble.. Is this an easy fold? Easy push? Or should I call and push any flop? What is your play here? Are the pot odds im getting here even important considering how shallow the stacks are?



Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button (t5328)
SB (t8019)
BB (t3569)
UTG (t5350)
UTG+1 (t6861)
MP1 (t10692)
MP2 (t7908)
Hero (t9113)
CO (t9180)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1500</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t4300</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero ????

ansky451 12-19-2005 04:31 AM

Re: crippling pot odds, steal gone wrong.
 
You have the worst hand by a lot. Your odds aren't very important cause you still have to see a flop and hes pushing the flop no matter what. Fold. Also, I'd have refrained from the pf steal with these stack sizes.

TheTimeIsUp 12-19-2005 04:40 AM

Re: crippling pot odds, steal gone wrong.
 
No reason to get impatient here. just let it go. When that much of your stack is on the line, pot odds can become irrelevant.

ansky451 12-19-2005 04:51 AM

Re: crippling pot odds, steal gone wrong.
 
I don't know that pot odds are ever "irellevent" but in this spot its negligable because they aren't his true odds. He can't really afford to take a flop with 1/2 his stack in the middle and then fold the flop. The reverse implied odds in this spot are bad.

12-19-2005 04:56 AM

Re: crippling pot odds, steal gone wrong.
 
I'm folding. There aren't many flops you're going to feel comfortable even bluffing at. You have to change the odds here since if you call you really can't fold a lot of times with half of your stack in the pot. You have to think in terms of your whole stack if you call. Which isn't 2.2-1 odds.

You aren't crippled either and have enough chips yet to make a comeback.

12-19-2005 05:09 AM

Re: crippling pot odds, steal gone wrong.
 
He won't even have a chance to bluff, that guy's stack is going all-in on the flop.


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