Can I fold this river? (Underfull) $50PLO8
 

Well, first, should I even be playing this hand?
$50 PL O8
I've got a $94 stack.
Hero SB $.25 with Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
4 limpers, I limp, BB checks. - Stacks range from $35-$45.
Flop K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K
Checks around.
Turn Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Checks around.
River K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Me and BB check, UTG limper folds, UTG+1 limper bets $1 into the $2.75 pot. 2 folds, I call, BB folds. Limper shows A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] for the 2nd nuts. Was it a bad call on the river? Should I have bet out on the turn or river? No real reads on this player...I figured with the checks around, could have been betting a flush or just trips. What's your play?

Re: Can I fold this river? (Underfull) $50PLO8
 

I think you played it fine on all streets.

caveat: I just started playing PLO8 the other day and have less than 1000 hands under my belt.

Re: Can I fold this river? (Underfull) $50PLO8
 

An easy fold preflop for LO8, and a borderline call for PLO8. Id probably fold it myself. The flop play is fine. On the turn, I would have potted it. River play depends on whether they called or raised your pot bet, but I think you played this situation fine. You are getting 3.75-1 odds here, and only need to be right just less than 1/4 of the time for this call to be correct. I think your good 1/4 of the time.

Re: Can I fold this river? (Underfull) $50PLO8
 

3rd nuts (quad K's, Ks full of Qs, then Ks full of 10s). In this early of a position I'd find it hard to bet out that turn card since it completed flush and straight draws, in a later position I might try to pick up the pot. It's a fairly small pot though and might not be worth the time since you won't like anyone playing back at you. The call on the river is fine.

Re: Can I fold this river? (Underfull) $50PLO8
 

2nd nuts, Quad K's can't happen if he has one. Thanks for the replies.

Re: Can I fold this river? (Underfull) $50PLO8
 

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An easy fold preflop for LO8, and a borderline call for PLO8. Id probably fold it myself. The flop play is fine. On the turn, I would have potted it. River play depends on whether they called or raised your pot bet, but I think you played this situation fine. You are getting 3.75-1 odds here, and only need to be right just less than 1/4 of the time for this call to be correct. I think your good 1/4 of the time.

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You are right that hero should pot it on the turn. I don't know why I missed that.

I disagree that this should be a fold in either limit or pot limit. In limit- you are getting 9-1 on your pre-flop call and only having to call 0.5 sb's increases your post-flop implied odds. You can easily see the flop and then play good poker with this hand. I need to be convinced this pre-flop "situation" is a fold in limit O8.

Re: Can I fold this river? (Underfull) $50PLO8
 

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2nd nuts, Quad K's can't happen if he has one. Thanks for the replies.

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Hero can't know that until post-showdown (not that it matters for the post).

On topic: He's the first to act with 3 to a flush and he doesn't even have the top set, potting it seems a little overly aggressive. If a villain re-pots it what do you do? Fold? Call and pray for the board to pair?

Re: Can I fold this river? (Underfull) $50PLO8
 

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On the turn, I would have potted it.

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Why? Never in hell would I pot second set on a flushed/str board, esp. OOP.

Re: Can I fold this river? (Underfull) $50PLO8
 

Hero had an underfull on the turn.

Re: Can I fold this river? (Underfull) $50PLO8
 

Ahh! I apologize...I didn't notice it, my post was a bit off...The flop came - Kh Td 2d...That last "K" was not supposed to be there...I had read that suit images made things clearer, but I wasn't quite used to using them yet. Sorry for the lack of clarity.