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obsidian 12-28-2005 12:02 AM

88 - I cold call
 
PF raiser is a tag. Something like 14/12/4.8 over about 100 hands. The 2 cold callers between me and him are loose and fairly passive players. However, they tend to bet when checked too. The turn raise was to push UTG off a hand like 99-QQ.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (11.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP1 folds, MP3 calls, Hero calls, Button folds.

Turn: (7.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG folds, MP3 calls.

River: (11.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP3 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 11.25 BB

12-28-2005 12:52 AM

Re: 88 - I cold call
 
tough situation....I certainly don't think a 4.8 is checking 99-QQ on this board by the way, but not a bad turn raise either way.... once it gets called u can probably figure that u r behind and figure on not putting another bet into this pot.... I don't neccesarily call this preflop either, I understand that u have odds if u hit a set, but there r so many hand combinations that beat you w/ this many people in, combined w/ the fact that it is a 14/12 that opened, I don't think it's an auto-fold, but not a must call either..... I hope mp3 missed his backdoor flush draw

sy_or_bust 12-28-2005 01:33 AM

Re: 88 - I cold call
 
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I don't neccesarily call this preflop either, I understand that u have odds if u hit a set, but there r so many hand combinations that beat you w/ this many people in

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come on, this is really dumb. i hope you don't rationalize marginal situations this way. nobody 'beats' you preflop, either.

sy_or_bust 12-28-2005 01:38 AM

Re: 88 - I cold call
 
turn raise is easily best if your read is accurate, though many times you can simply fold to MP3's bet.

me454555 12-28-2005 04:33 AM

Re: 88 - I cold call
 
I'd just toss it on the turn. Your description of the cold callers as loose passive makes me dislike this raise. They will bet when checked to but this isn't a spot where they will be betting a weaker hand very often given the size of the pot and # of players left in the hand. I think its just too likely one of them has a K or 7 and the pot is only 8.25 BBs when you're making this raise.

calmasahinducow 12-28-2005 04:38 AM

Re: 88 - I cold call
 
Doesn't look too bad.

SGS 12-28-2005 05:37 AM

Re: 88 - I cold call
 
Given the players you describe, nice hand.

SGS

AceHigh 12-28-2005 01:18 PM

Re: 88 - I cold call
 
I would fold on the flop, absent more info on MP3.

What do you put MP3 on?

obsidian 12-28-2005 01:26 PM

Re: 88 - I cold call
 
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I would fold on the flop, absent more info on MP3.

What do you put MP3 on?

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Any PP, ATo+, A9s+, KJo+, KTs+, QJo

He peels with most of these hands on this board too.

Piiop 12-28-2005 01:38 PM

Re: 88 - I cold call
 
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I would fold on the flop, absent more info on MP3.

What do you put MP3 on?

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Any PP, ATo+, A9s+, KJo+, KTs+, QJo

He peels with most of these hands on this board too.

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And which ones will he bet the turn with?


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