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LuvDemNutz 09-24-2005 03:00 PM

When to check behind vs. when to value bet....
 
5/10 NL - I have only seen Villain play one hand - he raised to $20 UTG+1 with KK -
flop came 3 A J r - he check/called $40 - turn was a K - he led for $100 and was minraised, he called, river was blank and he check-called $200. The other guy had AA so Villain's passive play saved him money here.

On to the hand...

Villain ($710) limps UTG I ($1200) raise on Button to $45 with AsKs

only Villain calls -

Flop ($105) 4c Ad Kc

I bet $80, he calls.

Turn ($245) 6h

I bet $145 - he calls.

River ($535) - 9d

Is this a clear value bet?

If so how much are you betting here?

gomberg 09-24-2005 03:11 PM

Re: When to check behind vs. when to value bet....
 
I'd bet at least $300. If he has a set, so be it, but I'd guess he could have another Ax 2pair or a high ace. If you knew a bit more about him, I guess a check behind is possible - but I think you're leaving too much value against passive opponents w/ AQ, A4s, A6s, AJ, and maybe he even folds other AK?

Mark1808 09-24-2005 03:14 PM

Re: When to check behind vs. when to value bet....
 
I like $100. AQ or maybe AJ will usually give you a $100 call here.

09-24-2005 03:24 PM

Re: When to check behind vs. when to value bet....
 
A value bet for $100? Go for at least $250

Gregg777 09-24-2005 03:26 PM

Re: When to check behind vs. when to value bet....
 
Villian has shown he will come along, no reason to leave money on the table, $300 is much better.

JKratzer 09-24-2005 03:33 PM

Re: When to check behind vs. when to value bet....
 
200-250 looks good. Against passive stations a check behind would def be leaving money on the table.

arod15 09-24-2005 03:46 PM

Re: When to check behind vs. when to value bet....
 
350 to go

arod15 09-24-2005 03:47 PM

Re: When to check behind vs. when to value bet....
 
also depends, im very aggressive and over bet things under bet. If your image is aggressive laggish bet 300+ plus if not at least 225 no less....

trevor 09-24-2005 04:06 PM

Re: When to check behind vs. when to value bet....
 
I think you bet no less than 1/2 the pot here, which I think is standard. What about if you are raised? I think this is clearly a value bet but what range of hands would he re-pop it with?

MTBlue 09-24-2005 06:37 PM

Re: When to check behind vs. when to value bet....
 
Min bet that way he'll make a crying call with a pair of deuces or queen high.


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