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PinkSteel 06-28-2005 11:37 AM

PP25NL, Laying Down a Set
 
I think I botched this at the turn.

Only 30 hands w/ Villain, nothing out of line.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) converter

UTG ($9.5)
UTG+1 ($58.45)
MP1 ($11.45)
Hero ($27.7)
CO ($53.1)
Button ($24.65)
SB ($22.3)
BB ($24.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.1.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1</font>, CO calls $1, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls $1.

Turn: ($4.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $3</font>, Hero calls $3, CO folds.

River: ($10.25) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB calls $20.50 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $30.75

Laomedon 06-28-2005 11:50 AM

Re: PP25NL, Laying Down a Set
 
I don't think I'm folding this here...

imported_anacardo 06-28-2005 11:55 AM

Re: PP25NL, Laying Down a Set
 
Seems like a strange way to play a flush. What are you putting villain on? Aces up, a stupid bluff-representation, or a high flush seem like the three most likely possibilities, but I'm not sure what order those go in. I would think you're good 40% of the time here, though (66% by game theory, but you can beat more than just a bluff here.)

orange 06-28-2005 12:39 PM

Re: PP25NL, Laying Down a Set
 
I would raise the turn, probobly $10 or so. If he calls, I would call/push the river. Unless your fairly positive that he has a flush, I make this play every time.

gulebjorn 06-28-2005 01:26 PM

Re: PP25NL, Laying Down a Set
 
I think it's fine and I probably play it the same. With a two-tone flop and some flatcalls, first thing that comes to my mind is: flush draw. On the turn, BB is saying: I made my flush. At the 25's, if you assume that they mean exactly what they are telling you by the way they bet, you wouldn't be too far off IMO. I think he hit his draw. You probably have the implied odds of filling up and extracting a lot of money from this guy on the river, so calling the turn is fine. Folding the river is fine too IMO.

TheWorstPlayer 06-28-2005 01:31 PM

Re: PP25NL, Laying Down a Set
 
Without reading your post: No.

gulebjorn 06-28-2005 01:37 PM

Re: PP25NL, Laying Down a Set
 
[ QUOTE ]
Without reading your post: No.

[/ QUOTE ]

How about after reading his post? I really think I plugged a major leak in my game when I stopped making calls like this. It's a 20$ push into a 10$ pot. And that after this guy just woke up on the turn, when the flush card hit the board... Without a read, I think it's a fold.

AllIn3High 06-28-2005 01:39 PM

Re: PP25NL, Laying Down a Set
 
[ QUOTE ]
Without reading your post: No.

[/ QUOTE ]

My thoughts exactly.

In this hand I'd raise the turn as others have suggested.

gulebjorn 06-28-2005 01:41 PM

Re: PP25NL, Laying Down a Set
 
I'm not saying that calling the turn and folding the river is correct, but what do you do if he pushes after your raise on the turn?

TheWorstPlayer 06-28-2005 01:42 PM

Re: PP25NL, Laying Down a Set
 
Raise the turn, call a push.


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