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obsidian 12-13-2005 05:23 PM

Turn semi-bluff
 
Villain is a multitabling tag. PF and flop too loose?

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (8 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.66 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, CO folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.33 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>

jason_t 12-13-2005 05:31 PM

Re: Turn semi-bluff
 
I fold preflop. Then I fold the flop. I suppose the semibluff is fine but the pot is a little small. Some TAGs are smart enough to read picked up flush draws.

obsidian 12-13-2005 05:35 PM

Re: Turn semi-bluff
 
Sort of what I figured. Too much 6-max.

jason_t 12-13-2005 05:40 PM

Re: Turn semi-bluff
 
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Sort of what I figured. Too much 6-max.

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The flop peel is probably the worst decision imo. Can you explain your thoughts?

obsidian 12-13-2005 05:48 PM

Re: Turn semi-bluff
 
Well unless villain has a pair already he missed this flop most the time. I have 2 overs and a b/d fluss draw which I can semi bluff if I hit. Not the best thinking as my outs, if I am not drawing to runner runner already, are obviously tainted.

jason_t 12-13-2005 05:55 PM

Re: Turn semi-bluff
 
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Well unless villain has a pair already he missed this flop most the time. I have 2 overs and a b/d fluss draw which I can semi bluff if I hit. Not the best thinking as my outs, if I am not drawing to runner runner already, are obviously tainted.

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Yeah he likely missed the flop but he's almost surely ahead of you. You could be dominated and as such be facing reverse implied odds. Your preflop error is compounded when you make postflop errors.

12-15-2005 04:06 PM

Re: Turn semi-bluff
 
fold this preflop, there isnt enough money in the pot to justify calling out of position with a dominated hand.
that being said, fold the flop too.

12-16-2005 06:19 AM

Re: Turn semi-bluff
 
Seems we all agree here.

Fold preflop.

If you misclicked, then I dont absolutely hate the line you took. Always fun to give something else a try.

NLfool 12-16-2005 06:41 AM

Re: Turn semi-bluff
 
geez everyone here is folding this in the BB? I may have to tighten up in the BB

danzasmack 12-16-2005 07:28 AM

Re: Turn semi-bluff
 
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geez everyone here is folding this in the BB? I may have to tighten up in the BB

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I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that villain is a TAG playing many a table.


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