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-Skeme- 12-26-2005 03:15 PM

AJo.
 
Villain:

{{Icon: Slightly LP preflop, but Agg postflop.
Hands: 98
VP$IP: 29
PFR: 6
Agg-Factor: 2.0
W$SD: 40

Not sure if these were available at the time of hand or not.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed)

Hero ($200)
UTG ($219.95)
UTG+1 ($141.45)
MP1 ($224)
MP2 ($228)
MP3 ($116.50)
CO ($73.65)
Button ($85.05)
SB ($134.80)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($10) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, MP2 checks, CO checks.

Turn: ($10) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, UTG folds, MP2 calls $8, CO folds, SB folds.

River: ($26) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $14</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $44</font>, Hero ??
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12-26-2005 06:09 PM

Re: AJo.
 
Hes offering you 2.8-1, you only have to be ahead 26% of the time. Your behind most of the time but i think you win this 26% of the time. Call... Its close though IMO.

-Skeme- 12-26-2005 06:28 PM

Re: AJo.
 
What do you put him on?

12-26-2005 06:37 PM

Re: AJo.
 
Well i take it back now that i think about it more. TT,99,88,AT,A9,A8 all raise here. Maybe AK. So all you beat is air which i dont see here. I guess a fold is in order then.

SmileyEH 12-26-2005 07:45 PM

Re: AJo.
 
I'd pot the river. Once you get to this spot I don't think it matters that much, probably fold though. Betting more on the river is so much better though, makes folding to a raise much easier and you'll get more value.

-SmileyEH

cardsharkk04 12-26-2005 08:23 PM

Re: AJo.
 
If I know he's a good player then I'd probably find a fold. If I don't know then I'll probably look him up

AZK 12-26-2005 08:31 PM

Re: AJo.
 
raise pre.

swolfe 12-26-2005 08:44 PM

Re: AJo.
 
i'd lead the flop.

when raised on the river, there's not much you're beating unless it's an A-little that was playing dead and figured you didn't have an A. i'd probably check/call river since i'm folding to a raise.

ryanghall 12-26-2005 09:54 PM

Re: AJo.
 
On hands like this, I like leading flop, check-calling turn, blocking river.

Ryan

Slappz 12-27-2005 02:10 AM

Re: AJo.
 
I think hes got to have atleast a straight here, with the majority of the time being a full-house. With that said i probably still dont fold.

JaBlue 12-27-2005 03:00 AM

Re: AJo.
 
[ QUOTE ]
raise pre.

[/ QUOTE ]

radioheadfan 12-27-2005 06:01 AM

Re: AJo.
 
Sure looks like you're beat. I muck here against the type of opponent you described.

Only way you're ahead is if he limped ace-junk, but with those stats it doesn't seem like he's doing that a whole lot from early MP. I think you'll see lots of boats and bigger aces if you call this river.

invisibleleadsoup 12-27-2005 11:48 AM

Re: AJo.
 
[ QUOTE ]
raise pre.

[/ QUOTE ]

really?
always?
i mean i sometimes raise here depending on the players who have already called,my image,etc,but certainly not always...

is a raise standard here?

BlackRain 12-27-2005 11:59 AM

Re: AJo.
 
I don't think a PF raise is standard here and I'm not sure if AZK was joking or not, but I disagree with it. Its a tough spot, as was mentioned, you aren't beating a whole lot. Really depends on the player. I probably find a fold here lots of the time.

I agree with the guy who said lead the flop also.

-Skeme- 12-27-2005 01:17 PM

Re: AJo.
 
Why exactly am I raising AJo here? I don't even raise it IN position. I hate it.

As for the results, I folded. I really think playing the previous streets better helps this hand. I think I should've lead. That'll help define my hand as well as define theirs. The turn bet I could've had a 9, an 8, or even a flush draw im Villain's eyes (he could also have a flush draw and bluffed me because of my river bet being small).

I think I should've definitely bet river harder as well.

12-27-2005 01:36 PM

Re: AJo.
 
You are beating A2-A7, Tx, a busted club draw, or air. Whether that accounts for 27% of the time is the question. I probably find a call here, as I think its close to 27% of the time, and Id like to see his cards. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]


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