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sublime 11-16-2004 04:35 PM

Re: KTo in the CO -- Foxwoods 4-8
 
open raising with KTo in the CO is value betting at its finest [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Joe Tall 11-16-2004 04:38 PM

Re: My Thoughts
 
Didn't you tell me the other day in a hand that a turn raise is better, in case he was just bluffing the ace, he won't bet into you again on the river and may check/fold?

Why am I not surprised that after all this time on here, you still get things totally screwed up. The hand you are referring to had different preflop action, a different flop, different types of opponents, and I think the hero was bet into on the flop which, oddly enough, makes it a totally different hand in a completely different situation. Strange how that works, but trust me it does. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Love,
Joe Tall

JoeU 11-16-2004 04:56 PM

Re: KTo in the CO -- Foxwoods 4-8
 
[ QUOTE ]
open raising with KTo in the CO is value betting at its finest

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree, this is definitely a value raise. I could easily pick up the blinds in this spot. I also could very well have the best hand here and raise for value. I believe my position also has a great effect in the value of my hand. I did neglect to mention that the button was fairly tight and the SB was an unknown.

Even in a loose game, I think I raise in this situation every time.

Joe

JoeU 11-16-2004 05:28 PM

Results
 
Since I don't have internet access at home yet, I'll post the results now.








This was one spot where calling the turn ended up being a mistake. My read was very wrong. He was taking a shot on the turn, and when I smooth called, I allowed him to draw. His KQo was good in the river.

Thanks to everyone who responded.

Joe

Trix 11-16-2004 10:15 PM

Re: Results
 
Itīs only a mistake if he wouldnīt have bluffed the river.

If he could fold to a turnraise, but will bluff the river then calling is alot better since he may pay off the river raise when he hits a K or Q aswell.

I like all of it.


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