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12-23-2005 02:57 AM

ummmm....now they are selling poker bots on ebay?
 
I came accross a link while browsing "poker bot" on ebay.

Apparently this guys claims it is profitable and is selling it for 10k

Alobar 12-23-2005 03:13 AM

Re: ummmm....now they are selling poker bots on ebay?
 
he blurred out the money won in all the columns (and the rake paid), then he left how many hands and what the winrate was, unblurred, yet he is smart enough to make a winning bot?

Reef 12-23-2005 03:16 AM

Re: ummmm....now they are selling poker bots on ebay?
 
lol, it beats micro micro limits at 2bb/100.

obsidian 12-23-2005 03:17 AM

Re: ummmm....now they are selling poker bots on ebay?
 
Considering he used .10/.25 as the base to tell you it is profitable I'm not too worried. He's be lucky to get $50 for this much less $10,000.

dlk9s 12-23-2005 02:21 PM

Re: ummmm....now they are selling poker bots on ebay?
 
They are scams.

Salerosa 12-23-2005 02:59 PM

Re: ummmm....now they are selling poker bots on ebay?
 
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They are scams.

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Really? Damnit I need to get my money back [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]I thought I was going to finally be a winning poker player [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

GrannyMae 12-23-2005 03:45 PM

Re: ummmm....now they are selling poker bots on ebay?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I came accross a link while browsing "poker bot" on ebay.

Apparently this guys claims it is profitable and is selling it for 10k

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where is link? we can't discuss this mike?
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smoore 12-23-2005 03:46 PM

Re: ummmm....now they are selling poker bots on ebay?
 
I saw it, it was a bunch of con-text with a couple PT screenshots, opening bid was 10k.

GrannyMae 12-23-2005 04:13 PM

Re: ummmm....now they are selling poker bots on ebay?
 
opening bid was 10k

which makes it *much* different than the rest of the "bots" on ebay.

i searched ebay and found it. looks like a dumbbot

12-28-2005 04:30 AM

Re: ummmm....now they are selling poker bots on ebay?
 
I saw on the Winholdem forums that a bot is worth 5000 times how much it makes in one day. If this is the case, $10000 sounds correct to me.

Allinlife 12-28-2005 04:52 AM

Re: ummmm....now they are selling poker bots on ebay?
 
I saw someone selling money printer on ebay too

you would have to be a fool to buy it though, dont you think?

RikaKazak 12-28-2005 08:44 AM

Re: ummmm....now they are selling poker bots on ebay?
 
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I saw someone selling money printer on ebay too

you would have to be a fool to buy it though, dont you think?

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What??!?!?!?! money printer, I'm ALL IN THAT!!!!!!!!!!

LOLOLOLOOLOLOL

12-28-2005 10:46 AM

Re: ummmm....now they are selling poker bots on ebay?
 
Why would a bot be worth 5000x times what it could make in a day?

You would have to run the bot on multiple accounts on multiple sites just to break even before you either got caught or they updated their software and it broke the bot.

IggyWH 12-28-2005 10:57 AM

Re: ummmm....now they are selling poker bots on ebay?
 
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I saw on the Winholdem forums that a bot is worth 5000 times how much it makes in one day. If this is the case, $10000 sounds correct to me.

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How's your WHE bot doing? Crushing those .01/.02 games eh?

kurosh 12-28-2005 10:59 AM

Re: ummmm....now they are selling poker bots on ebay?
 
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I saw on the Winholdem forums that a bot is worth 5000 times how much it makes in one day. If this is the case, $10000 sounds correct to me.

[/ QUOTE ]This is the guy selling the bot. Honestly, it looks legitimate to me.

jman220 12-28-2005 11:26 AM

Re: ummmm....now they are selling poker bots on ebay?
 
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I saw on the Winholdem forums that a bot is worth 5000 times how much it makes in one day. If this is the case, $10000 sounds correct to me.

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What!?! Think about this statement for a second. I mean, actually think about the stupidity of what you just said. You would pay $10,000 for a bot that could make $2 a day? That means someone who purchased the bot would take 13 years of continuous play, 24/7, just to break even. You are a moron.

GrannyMae 12-28-2005 01:05 PM

Re: ummmm....now they are selling poker bots on ebay?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I saw on the Winholdem forums that a bot is worth 5000 times how much it makes in one day. If this is the case, $10000 sounds correct to me.

[/ QUOTE ]

What!?! Think about this statement for a second. I mean, actually think about the stupidity of what you just said. You would pay $10,000 for a bot that could make $2 a day? That means someone who purchased the bot would take 13 years of continuous play, 24/7, just to break even. You are a moron.

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i agree that these bots might not make this bb/100.

however, the reason that the price is OK is because you can run 10 (or more) at 1 time.

solucky 12-28-2005 02:11 PM

Re: ummmm....now they are selling poker bots on ebay?
 
thats around 6% / year not to bad. The problem is the bot is perhaps not profitable in 6 month.

BradleyT 12-28-2005 02:47 PM

Re: ummmm....now they are selling poker bots on ebay?
 
Wow - VP$IP 6.25 [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

r3vbr 12-28-2005 02:53 PM

Re: ummmm....now they are selling poker bots on ebay?
 
If someone showed me a bot that had a very high artificial inteligente, and could easily beat the NL25 tables at PS and Party, I would gladly pay over $30,000 for it.

I would then buy several server pc's for $100 a piece (about 50 of them), hire 2 or 3 friends to help me, and start my pokerbot company [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

We would have hundreds of accounts spread, leave just bare minimum bankroll for if the site catches 1 bot, you just lose a little bit more than your buyin, etc.

I assume you can earn easy over 1 million first year, and if you manage well, grow to up to 5 million on following years (dominating all the micro limit tables there are availible) and hiring more staff and investing on more servers.

10k for a truly great bot, is peanuts

BradleyT 12-28-2005 03:00 PM

Re: ummmm....now they are selling poker bots on ebay?
 
Well, all this one is is a nut grinder. From the auction he has a link to his webpage with PT stats.

From his webpage he has a link to his blog. He knows what he's doing (in terms of poker bots).

slavic 12-28-2005 03:00 PM

Re: ummmm....now they are selling poker bots on ebay?
 
you overestimate the size of the available cash pool.

slavic 12-28-2005 03:12 PM

Re: ummmm....now they are selling poker bots on ebay?
 
This logic for this bot has been written several times before and you can read it in Ed Miller's getting started in hold'em book. All this thing is doig is waiting for a group 1 or 2 hand and pushing in preflop. I'm actually willing to bet the grouping is a little tighter thatn 1 or 2 but in reallity it's a preflop nut puddler with no postflop decisions. So buy in for the min and leave a table if you double or reload if you don't.

itsmarty 12-28-2005 03:49 PM

Re: ummmm....now they are selling poker bots on ebay?
 
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He knows what he's doing (in terms of poker bots).

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He certainly knows how to state things matter-of-factly. Whether that means anything about his poker bot skill is unknown.

Martin

obsidian 12-28-2005 05:30 PM

Re: ummmm....now they are selling poker bots on ebay?
 
A good bot is a long ways in the making. Especially one that can play multiway as most of the advanced bots nowadays seem to be geared for heads up play. Theoretically though, it most certainly seems possible.

slavic 12-28-2005 08:44 PM

Re: ummmm....now they are selling poker bots on ebay?
 
Multiplayer bots are certainly possible and I think you can likely find a few capable of pulling a decent profit right now. If they exist they will not be on the open market.

12-28-2005 08:57 PM

Re: ummmm....now they are selling poker bots on ebay?
 
I'd be pretty leary of paying that kind of cash for any item that could become obsolete at any moment. All it would take would be for one of ther sites to write a program that would render the bot unusable, and the $10k is gone.

I've also heard about a product that supposedly makes a man's p_nis grow larger. I think they called it a centerfold.


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