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gvibes 02-15-2005 12:44 AM

AJo - easy fold preflop here?
 
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.5.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, UTG+2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ????</font>

SB seemed solid, and UTG seemed fishy

TwoShedsJackson 02-15-2005 06:12 AM

Re: AJo - easy fold preflop here?
 
The old limp-reraise - I used to think this meant AA or KK but lately I've seen it with everything from T2o to Q8d - it's another 1BB to you in a good position, I'd see a flop here.

Vaftrudner 02-15-2005 06:51 AM

Re: AJo - easy fold preflop here?
 
With a "normal" UTG it's a easy fold. With a fishy UTG I'd see the flop too. /v

pointcount 02-15-2005 07:52 AM

Re: AJo - easy fold preflop here?
 
2 cold with AJo?

Easy fold IMO

gvibes 02-15-2005 02:07 PM

Re: AJo - easy fold preflop here?
 
Interesting - two for calling, one for folding.

I thought, calling two cold and even with position, this was an easy fold, and did fold.

I guess I didn't put as much stock into the fishiness of UTG as I should have.

However, doesn't a 3-bet from a "solid" (don't have my pokertracker computer with me now, but let's say 19/8) SB mean I could very well be dominated here?

SB had QQ. UTG K8d. Flop came KJrag, and SB didn't improve, and UTG takes down the pot.

davelin 02-15-2005 02:09 PM

Re: AJo - easy fold preflop here?
 
TwoSheds thought it was just one more to call. Cold-calling 2 here is an easy fold.

gvibes 02-15-2005 02:27 PM

Re: AJo - easy fold preflop here?
 
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TwoSheds thought it was just one more to call. Cold-calling 2 here is an easy fold.

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TwoSheds said it was only one BB to me, which is correct.

I still feel like it's a fold though.

Joey Knish 02-15-2005 02:33 PM

Re: AJo - easy fold preflop here?
 
It's two back to you.

You posted, raised, and then it came back capped.

davelin 02-15-2005 02:35 PM

Re: AJo - easy fold preflop here?
 
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TwoSheds thought it was just one more to call. Cold-calling 2 here is an easy fold.

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TwoSheds said it was only one BB to me, which is correct.

I still feel like it's a fold though.

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2SB = 1BB. Still a fold.

Reef 02-15-2005 02:37 PM

Re: AJo - easy fold preflop here?
 
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With a "normal" UTG it's a easy fold. With a fishy UTG I'd see the flop too. /v

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but SB is still a solid 3-bettor. I HATE AJo against a solid player's 3-bet. The cap, although from a fishy, should give you more reason to fold. I do not advocate folding after a raise for 1 more w/ AJo, but for 2, it's a good decision to me. The only advantage is that you have position on them.


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