Party 15-30 trouble
 

I just started playing 15-30 on Party a little more than 3 weeks ago, and as of right now, I'm exactly even, which is downright horrible for me. After being a winning player at every limit I've played up to this point (1-2 through 5-10), I'm going through some adversity here and I was wondering if any of you have gone through the same thing when you started out at a higher limit. I know several people I've talked to that have recently made the jump from 5-10 to 15-30 are doing very well, so I figure I must be doing something wrong, since I have about 60 hours of play under my belt and I've made no headway at all (dead even). David Ross said the 15-30 games are definitely beatable if you're a winning player at 5-10, but I'd like to hear some other opinions. I've obviously had some atrocious luck over the 3 weeks I've played, but I've never gone through a 3 week losing streak in my life, so I figure there's no way its just bad luck. Anybody have advice for me?

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I just started playing 15-30 on Party a little more than 3 weeks ago, and as of right now, I'm exactly even, which is downright horrible for me. After being a winning player at every limit I've played up to this point (1-2 through 5-10), I'm going through some adversity here and I was wondering if any of you have gone through the same thing when you started out at a higher limit. I know several people I've talked to that have recently made the jump from 5-10 to 15-30 are doing very well, so I figure I must be doing something wrong, since I have about 60 hours of play under my belt and I've made no headway at all (dead even). David Ross said the 15-30 games are definitely beatable if you're a winning player at 5-10, but I'd like to hear some other opinions. I've obviously had some atrocious luck over the 3 weeks I've played, but I've never gone through a 3 week losing streak in my life, so I figure there's no way its just bad luck. Anybody have advice for me?

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I'm sure you'll be beating the game for the customary 6 BB/hr in no time at all. Hang in there, tiger.

Re: Party 15-30 trouble
 

I've played with you a bit and think you can beat the 15 - my advice is to keep playing it and just set a bankroll limit - say if you get below 200 BBs for the 15, move back down to the 5. or if you want to be more aggressive, set it at 150BB.

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who's made the jump recently from 5.10 to 15.30?

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If you came on here and told us you've been playing the 15/30 for 3 weeks and have made 10 grand, and asked us whether we thought you were good enough to bust up chumps like Neverwin over at the 100/200 on Pokerstars, we'd still give you the same response: these shorterm results aren't significant enough to base conclusions off of, especially since we don't know how many hands you've played over the course of your 15/30 trial run. If you've played 60k hands during the last 3 weeks and are still even, I'd tell you to reavaluate your game, to go buy Eds new book, then go practice on some of your local cardroom/casino fishes and leave the partyfish to the rest of us.

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This comment is going to sound contemptuous and arrogant no
matter how I put it; it is not meant to be, so please only
read it as criticism. But to be perfectly honest, if you
have never had a losing streak as long as three weeks, I
really doubt you have the experience to easily crush an
average 15-30 game. And by the way, breaking even over a
three week period is not a horrible losing streak [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]. It
is not good, but it is far from a horrible losing streak.

Re: Party 15-30 trouble
 

Hi Illini -

Do you have an edge at the 15/30 game? If so, why?

If you can honestly answer that question in the affirmative and give specific reasons why (and "these guys suck" isn't a specific reason), then who cares that you are only even after 60 hours? Someone beating the game like a drum could easily be _down_ a substantial amount over such a short period.

If you cannot answer the question in the affirmative _and_ give specific reasons why, then why did you move up?

Good luck

Cepstrum

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This comment is going to sound contemptuous and arrogant no
matter how I put it; it is not meant to be, so please only
read it as criticism. But to be perfectly honest, if you
have never had a losing streak as long as three weeks, I
really doubt you have the experience to easily crush an
average 15-30 game. And by the way, breaking even over a
three week period is not a horrible losing streak [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]. It
is not good, but it is far from a horrible losing streak.

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To add, I've beaten the 15/30 over the course of 100k hands now and I've been through a 8k downswing over the course of 2 weeks.

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You're even and you call that adversity?

Two comments though - I have 3k hands of you in database...

1) Not relevant to your ability but you abuse players at the table way too much.
2) You need to do a bit more preflop raising, I have pretty recent hands where you have limper in behind a couple of limpers with a hand as good as AQo.

Re: Party 15-30 trouble
 

So you jumped up to a limit 3 times higher than what you usually play and you broke even for 3 weeks. Boo-hoo.
Here is my advice: if you are going to ask questions here, ask something which might make you better at poker.