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rvg72 08-01-2005 02:29 AM

Calling an All In with KQo with 5 left?
 
I'm pretty sure the KQo call here is a good one - what other hands do you call here with?

#Game No : 2458649988
***** Hand History for Game 2458649988 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:14442873 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Monday, August 01, 02:15:18 EDT 2005
Table Table 13834 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: Kerrby2 ( $1060 )
Seat 3: Mpad1979 ( $1125 )
Seat 4: ryry27 ( $3150 )
Seat 7: HERO ( $1435 )
Seat 9: hammw ( $1230 )
Trny:14442873 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Qc Kh ]
hammw folds.
Kerrby2 folds.
Mpad1979 folds.
ryry27 is all-In [3000]

rvg

Ogre 08-01-2005 02:37 AM

Re: Calling an All In with KQo with 5 left?
 
call

pearljam 08-01-2005 02:40 AM

Re: Calling an All In with KQo with 5 left?
 
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call

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08-01-2005 02:45 AM

Re: Calling an All In with KQo with 5 left?
 
Whats the thinking behind calling. Your behind any Ax that he might be pushing, and a coinflip with pokets. The hands you dominate arent ones he would be pushing that often. what gives?! [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Ogre 08-01-2005 02:47 AM

Re: Calling an All In with KQo with 5 left?
 
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Whats the thinking behind calling. Your behind any Ax that he might be pushing, and a coinflip with pokets. The hands you dominate arent ones he would be pushing that often. what gives?! [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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you have 21% of you stack in already, it makes 50/50 and 40/60s +ev

HonestIago15 08-01-2005 02:47 AM

Re: Calling an All In with KQo with 5 left?
 
I'm definately not convinced this is a call.

If it is I think it's pretty close.

But I'm way too lazy to do the math right now.

08-01-2005 03:02 AM

Re: Calling an All In with KQo with 5 left?
 
Im gonna be the guy to disagree. Granted he is pushing you for your blinds, 5 handed you are not in trouble yet. It is 3:00am and it probably is +EV to call, but still... you have at least one more time round the table before blinds will catch up with you, wait for the Ax to push

david050173 08-01-2005 03:34 AM

Re: Calling an All In with KQo with 5 left?
 
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Whats the thinking behind calling. Your behind any Ax that he might be pushing, and a coinflip with pokets. The hands you dominate arent ones he would be pushing that often. what gives?! [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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The SB could be pushing a larger range than ax and pair. Some big stacks will be pushing any 2 here. If plug it into the power tools, you have to be able to figure out if he will push k2+ and some qs before this becomes an EV+ call. Personally I fold most of the time. Look at the other stacks. Except for the one big one, they are all about the same level of yours. I think you need to be patient and hope to get a pushing chance

lastchance 08-01-2005 03:42 AM

Re: Calling an All In with KQo with 5 left?
 
It depends on Villain. Some Villains just don't like pushing, and they'll most often complete here. When they push, it doesn't mean K2o, or Q5, or something like that.

They push something like Ax, any pair, K9+, QT, JTs, or something like that, which is absolutely horrible, of course. Hell, since they like limping, they might limp more, trying to "trap" you.

However, if I or any 2+2er is in the SB, you better believe we're shoving the hands mentioned above, and more, much more here. I think a lot about shoving 32o here, though Villains like calling a lot.

So, with any aggressive read, I call here. Otherwise, I might fold, but damn, I'm tempted.

Maulik 08-01-2005 08:43 AM

Re: Calling an All In with KQo with 5 left?
 
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It depends on Villain. Some Villains just don't like pushing, and they'll most often complete here. When they push, it doesn't mean K2o, or Q5, or something like that.

They push something like Ax, any pair, K9+, QT, JTs, or something like that, which is absolutely horrible, of course. Hell, since they like limping, they might limp more, trying to "trap" you.

However, if I or any 2+2er is in the SB, you better believe we're shoving the hands mentioned above, and more, much more here. I think a lot about shoving 32o here, though Villains like calling a lot.

So, with any aggressive read, I call here. Otherwise, I might fold, but damn, I'm tempted.

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You are definately ahead of most SB's pushing range

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