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imported_Chuck Weinstock 08-05-2004 02:58 PM

Bush Admits Harming America
 
At the signing of $417 billion defense bill Bush said:

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."

Sure it was probably a slip of the tongue, but most such slips are grounded in reality.

The Armchair 08-05-2004 03:01 PM

Re: Bush Admits Harming America
 
It's no worse than the language, grammar, and structure of most 2+2 books I've read.

Perhaps W needs to preface his speeches with "A Note on the English."

daryn 08-05-2004 03:02 PM

Re: Bush Admits Harming America
 
zzzzzzzzing!


exactly. tell me again about how ray zee made his money in the dessert.

The once and future king 08-05-2004 03:07 PM

Re: Bush Admits Harming America
 
2+2 publishing publish poker books. That is there "job"

Pres Bush is a professional politician. An important skill of the professional politician is oratory.

So we can conclude hes crap at that.

Wonder what else hes crap at?

cardcounter0 08-05-2004 03:08 PM

Re: Bush Admits Harming America
 
I agree, it is pretty unreasonable to expect the leader of the free world to have at least a high school level grasp of the English language. Gansters in the hood speak the same level of English, why should we expect more from the Yale educated President?

The Armchair 08-05-2004 03:18 PM

Re: Bush Admits Harming America
 
My favorite part of the "Note" is that it begins with a grammar error.

Honestly, 2+2 isn't as bad as some of the Cardoza stuff I've seen. Mike Cappelleti (A Note on the Spelling: I apologize if I misspelled his name, but I'm not a professional speller.) has a great line somewhere in his Omaha 8 book.

"In one word: pull, don't push with this hand!"

One word, Mike, not six.

Rooster71 08-05-2004 09:23 PM

Re: Bush Admits Harming America
 
[ QUOTE ]
2+2 publishing publish poker books. That is there "job"

Pres Bush is a professional politician. An important skill of the professional politician is oratory.

So we can conclude hes crap at that.

[/ QUOTE ]
Sad but true.

Rooster71 08-05-2004 09:27 PM

Re: Bush Admits Harming America
 
[ QUOTE ]
I agree, it is pretty unreasonable to expect the leader of the free world to have at least a high school level grasp of the English language. Gansters in the hood speak the same level of English, why should we expect more from the Yale educated President?

[/ QUOTE ]
Many people like Bush's lack of speaking ability because it makes them feel that he is a "common man". I am definitely not one of these people.

cardcounter0 08-05-2004 09:36 PM

Re: Bush Admits Harming America
 
Yes, Billy Bob down at the gas station has the same non-existent speaking ability, but I don't think I would really be comfortable with his fingers on the nuke-lur button, or have the ability to send troops into combat whenever old Jimmy John down at the bar feels like it.

dsm 08-05-2004 10:46 PM

Re: Bush Admits No Such Thing
 
[ QUOTE ]
They (our enimies) never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."


[/ QUOTE ]

The alleged statement can imply one of two different things ( i don't doubt that he said it, I'm just too lazy to check):

A)...and neither do we ever stop thinking of new ways to harm our own country and our own people.

B)...and neither do we ever stop thinking of new ways to harm our enimies.

If you're on the far left, well then it just HAS to be a Freudian slip, and that deep down (on an unconscious level) he must really have meant option 'A.' The rest of us read the statement, laugh at the thought of Bush meaning to imply option 'A,' then get on with our lives.



moondogg 08-05-2004 11:06 PM

Re: Bush Admits Harming America
 
[ QUOTE ]
2+2 publishing publish poker books. That is there "job"

Pres Bush is a professional politician. An important skill of the professional politician is oratory.

So we can conclude hes crap at that.

Wonder what else hes crap at?

[/ QUOTE ]

C'mon man. If you're going to criticism someone's communication skills in less than 40 words, try to make less than three typos in the process.

"Me fail english? That's unpossible!"

moondogg 08-05-2004 11:17 PM

Chuck, You\'re Post Is A Lie
 
[ QUOTE ]
At the signing of $417 billion defense bill Bush said:

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."

Sure it was probably a slip of the tongue, but most such slips are grounded in reality.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm not defending the statement, obviously it was a poor choice of words.

That being said, "Bush Admits Harming America" is a pure lie.

Based on that quote, Bush never admitted harming anyone or anything.

"They never stop thinking about new ways to harm...", along with "and neither do we." Nobody is actually DOING any harming, they are thinking about it.

If your post was titled "Bush Admits THINKING About Harming America", you might have a case. But instead, your post is just a lie.

If your going to pick on the guy, there's plenty of material that is good enough as it is. It should be shooting fish in a barrel, but you seem to be having some trouble with it.

Edit: Since it is a clear distortion of the truth, I was going to report it to the moderators... oh hell, what's the use. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

nothumb 08-06-2004 01:47 AM

Re: Bush Admits Harming America
 
[ QUOTE ]
If you're going to criticism someone's communication skills in less than 40 words, try to make less than three typos in the process.


[/ QUOTE ]

Well, you've got 2 left, so I guess you're in the clear.

There is also a difference between making a typo and making a grammatical/logical non sequitor.

I think the original poster was making the point that the President should be held to a higher standard. Since the original poster was not the President, or for that matter an elected official, he is not caught in any logical trap himself.

NT

The once and future king 08-06-2004 06:00 AM

Re: Bush Admits Harming America
 
Its not my job not to make typos.

Is it yours to be pedantic and/or posit flimsy diversions from the real issue re : is Bush a moron?

My english skills are hardly relevant to the above are they.

MMMMMM 08-06-2004 07:34 AM

Re: Chuck, You\'re Post Is A Lie
 
My guess is that Bush meant that we never stop looking for ways our enemies might attempt to harm America (so that we can take preventive countermeasures). Our enemies are looking for chinks in our armor, and so should we be, if we are to employ a proper defensive strategy.

GWB 08-06-2004 08:00 AM

Re: Bush Admits Harming America
 
Chuck,

I made a minor slip of the toungue, obviously my actions as President are more important than how slick a speaker I am.

Lets get back to important things, like the proper use of corn.

W

imported_Chuck Weinstock 08-06-2004 09:37 AM

Re: Chuck, You\'re Post Is A Lie
 
Sure, he obviously meant that or something similar. That doesn't excuse the sloppy wording. The leader of the free world should not make ambiguous statements (unless that is the point of the statement of course.)

Chuck

GWB 08-06-2004 09:40 AM

Re: Chuck, You\'re Post Is A Lie
 
[ QUOTE ]
The leader of the free world should not make ambiguous statements (unless that is the point of the statement of course.)


[/ QUOTE ]

I guess that rules out Kerry:
"I actually voted for the $87 billion before I voted against it"

The once and future king 08-06-2004 09:51 AM

Re: Bush Admits Harming America
 
Why do you make them so often?

Do you still believe the following?

Quote

"There is no french word for entrepreneur"

End quote.

The Armchair 08-06-2004 09:52 AM

Re: Chuck, You\'re [sic] Post Is A Lie
 
I'm by no means a Bush partisan (or a Kerry one), but do you really want to give a pass for intentional ambiguity in favor of unintentional? I mean, what Bush said was a slip of the tongue (albeit a common one). The typical political double-speak is used to avoid responsibility. The latter is certainly the greater evil.

GWB 08-06-2004 09:54 AM

Re: Bush Admits Harming America
 
[ QUOTE ]
Why do you make them so often?

Do you still believe the following?

Quote

"There is no french word for entrepreneur"

End quote.

[/ QUOTE ]

Perhaps I meant to say:

In today's socialist France, there is no such thing as a French Entrepreneur.

MMMMMM 08-06-2004 10:06 AM

Re: Chuck, You\'re Post Is A Lie
 
The wording was quite sloppy indeed.

The once and future king 08-06-2004 10:29 AM

Re: Bush Admits Harming America
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Why do you make them so often?

Do you still believe the following?

Quote

"There is no french word for entrepreneur"

End quote.

[/ QUOTE ]

Perhaps I meant to say:

In today's socialist France, there is no such thing as a French Entrepreneur.

[/ QUOTE ]

Perhaps ?

So even you dont know what your trying to say.

My confidence is restored.


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