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Slow Play Ray 12-05-2005 11:20 AM

Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
Okay, so we all know some uninformed people play by some pretty dumb rules, but have you ever heard one this bad? My buddy played at his neighbor's house this weekend, and there were a lot of asinine rules he told me, but this was the worst: when it gets to heads-up, they play 6 hands, and the person with the most chips after 6 hands wins. So basically if you have a big enough stack, you can just fold 6 times and win.

2+2 wannabe 12-05-2005 11:44 AM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
I like the rule at a home game I used to play at:

"1/2 100NL - before the flop the max raise is to $4 TOTAL, on the flop and beyond there's no limit"

so yeah 10 people see the flop for $4....flop K42 rainbow - someone's always got 2 pair already

cmillard 12-05-2005 01:16 PM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
The first home game I played in:
Game ends at 10:30, person with the most chips win! Every night at 10:00pm....short stacks going all-in, big stacks folding...until someone calls, gives all his chips to medium stack and they win!!!! CRAZY!

Zetack 12-05-2005 01:34 PM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I like the rule at a home game I used to play at:

"1/2 100NL - before the flop the max raise is to $4 TOTAL, on the flop and beyond there's no limit"

so yeah 10 people see the flop for $4....flop K42 rainbow - someone's always got 2 pair already

[/ QUOTE ]

I played in one with an ante instead of blinds, it was limit before the flop, pot limit after the flop. There was never anything you should fold pre-flop. I didn't like it much.

12-05-2005 05:11 PM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
We played with 2 jokers in the deck. The jokers could be anything. also if there was a bad beat hand was declared dead - everything was set to initial position.

JonPKibble 12-05-2005 10:40 PM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
[ QUOTE ]
We played with 2 jokers in the deck. The jokers could be anything. also if there was a bad beat hand was declared dead - everything was set to initial position.

[/ QUOTE ]

Bring Your Own Diapers? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

12-06-2005 12:49 AM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
I played a Home Game with no side pots. If you were all-in for your last 100 when the blinds were 1,000-2,000 you could win the full pot of 3,100. You could also win any additional betting the other players made.

Needless to say I only played once.

henrikrh 12-06-2005 02:40 PM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Okay, so we all know some uninformed people play by some pretty dumb rules, but have you ever heard one this bad? My buddy played at his neighbor's house this weekend, and there were a lot of asinine rules he told me, but this was the worst: when it gets to heads-up, they play 6 hands, and the person with the most chips after 6 hands wins. So basically if you have a big enough stack, you can just fold 6 times and win.

[/ QUOTE ]

yes, dumbest rule, ever.

tubalkain 12-06-2005 03:36 PM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I played a Home Game with no side pots. If you were all-in for your last 100 when the blinds were 1,000-2,000 you could win the full pot of 3,100. You could also win any additional betting the other players made.

Needless to say I only played once.

[/ QUOTE ]

Dumbest. Rule. EVAR.

SoloAJ 12-06-2005 06:14 PM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
I'll be honest, I don't know which rule is worse.

6 Hands Heads up.
Ability to win full pot if you have 1 small denom chip left.

That is...tough...
I feel like an idiot for griping about some of the home game rules I've ran into...

12-06-2005 06:27 PM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
Tell your friend not to come back to my house.

bravos1 12-06-2005 07:05 PM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
I played at a friends house who had a no check-raising rule. I know.. I know...many people have this rule as they feel C/R'ing is of poor taste. Meh, whatever. I told him that his game was not my cup of tea since the C/R is a valuable tool. A few weeks later, he came to me and said that some others didn't like it as well, so they changed it.

Me : "cool, you allow C/R'ing now.. count me in."
Him : "Well, we allow it in certain situations"
Me : [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
Him : "you can C/R as long as you don't have a flush or better"
Me : [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] "Um... yeah... never mind, I think I have to wash my hair or something"

ZenMusician 12-06-2005 09:36 PM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
At one home game, we played normal until heads-up.
Then we would shoot darts...whoever got to 201 first
won the tourney. Air hockey was used to break ties.

-ZEN

Scotty O 12-06-2005 09:46 PM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
This is a pretty dumb rule. You better be the chip leader when you get HU

Scotty O

12-06-2005 10:29 PM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Okay, so we all know some uninformed people play by some pretty dumb rules, but have you ever heard one this bad? My buddy played at his neighbor's house this weekend, and there were a lot of asinine rules he told me, but this was the worst: when it gets to heads-up, they play 6 hands, and the person with the most chips after 6 hands wins. So basically if you have a big enough stack, you can just fold 6 times and win.

[/ QUOTE ]

Do I get bonus points if one of the casinos I play at actually has this as a rule for tournaments once they get down to 4 players?

CrazyN8 12-07-2005 01:04 AM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
[ QUOTE ]
At one home game, we played normal until heads-up.
Then we would shoot darts...whoever got to 201 first
won the tourney. Air hockey was used to break ties.

-ZEN

[/ QUOTE ]

Seriously, though, this would be awesome! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

12-07-2005 01:52 AM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
I was at a game and one of the guys running it was still in the game. There where 12 players left on 2 tables and the final table was going to be 10 players. 1 of the players on his table busted out and he said that the final 5 on his can stop playing and wait for one of the players on the other table to bust out. His reasoning was the blinds come to fast at 5 players.

vox 12-07-2005 01:52 AM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
I've played a NL home cash game where, if you have chips in front of you, you have to declare that you're leaving a half-hour in advance.

It's not as dumb as no side pots, but it's still pretty dumb.

Snarf 12-07-2005 02:40 AM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
I heard of some people that play if theres a four card straight or flush on the board - that you're not allowed to use only one hole card to complete the hand. Its like mixing Omaha in a four card straight/flush situation with Hold 'em....

Also... I've seen heads up chip leaders offer their opponent the victory if they strip. (when chip leader is a guy and opponent is female.)

bdohaney 12-07-2005 02:51 AM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I've played a NL home cash game where, if you have chips in front of you, you have to declare that you're leaving a half-hour in advance.

It's not as dumb as no side pots, but it's still pretty dumb.

[/ QUOTE ]

This isn't even dumb if you play with a bunch of asses who win one big pot and then leave. I don't see where this is a bad thing at all.

jzpiano14 12-07-2005 04:21 AM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
I think I win here....I went to a home game that had this rule
I played a Home Game with no side pots. If you were all-in for your last 100 when the blinds were 1,000-2,000 you could win the full pot of 3,100. You could also win any additional betting the other players made.

BUT they had a rule that at any time you could go all in blind, so what you say? You couldn't make the call if you've looked at your cards [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] so you literally had to call an all in blind, if you had already looked your hand got folded. I was like WTF...this is gay and left because somebody went all in blind everyhand...oh and they claim they saw this on WPT all the time [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

Tom Bayes 12-07-2005 04:07 PM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
When I visit my sister, we will occasionally play a small NLHE game (usually buy-in will be like $2 or $3) and we play with 0.05/0.10 blinds. My sister is a OK player but is kind of cautious and is the only weak-tight player of her group; for some comparisons, her husband hates poker and tries to lose his chips as quickly as possible so he can go play his guitar instead of cards, one of her friends still can't keep the hand rankings straight and is the ultimate calling station, and another guy is totally predictable in that big bet=bluff and small bet=monster.
My sister hates it when others go all-in, so she made a rule where the first play to bet on any given round can only bet $0.10. Anyone else who wants to raise on that street can raise up to all-in if they want. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

I've explained to her how this sucks and I've tried to convince her to either play real NL, or play limit or PL if she doesn't like NL. She tells me "It's a house rule and you are in my house."

tonypaladino 12-07-2005 04:39 PM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
This thread makles me angry. I can't beleive such stupidity exists in this world.

Salva135 12-09-2005 01:57 PM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I've played a NL home cash game where, if you have chips in front of you, you have to declare that you're leaving a half-hour in advance.

It's not as dumb as no side pots, but it's still pretty dumb.

[/ QUOTE ]

This isn't even dumb if you play with a bunch of asses who win one big pot and then leave. I don't see where this is a bad thing at all.

[/ QUOTE ]

No, and in fact, this is a pretty standard rule at a lot of home games, I think, including ones I play in. It's a good defense against the hit and run, and a simple courtesy to everyone else at the game. At a casino or online you can get away with this, but a friendly home game there's just no need.

ohnonotthat 12-10-2005 06:56 PM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
I think I speak for all when I express my appreciation for the parenthetical clause. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

ninjaunderwear 12-11-2005 12:36 AM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
I once played in a home-game where if you wanted to check-raise, you had to declare "check-raise" instead of just checking; otherwise it would be considered a string bet.

Snarf 12-11-2005 02:13 AM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I once played in a home-game where if you wanted to check-raise, you had to declare "check-raise" instead of just checking; otherwise it would be considered a string bet.

[/ QUOTE ]

Thats friggin' hilarious dude. Kinda adds an entirely new set of psycological mind games to play.

Player 1 announces 'check-raise'
I bet
Player 1 raises - to my surprise
I announce that I'm happy he followed through on his promise, and I re-raise there and on every street

On flop/turn/river when he folds I show my 9 high.

Better yet:

Floppage: A 8 8
Villian: 'check-raise'
Hero: 'uh...check behind ya dude.'

Turn: 2
Villian: 'check-raise again'
Hero: 'uh....checking it again right back to ya'

River: 5
Villian: 'Might as well try again...check-raise'
Hero: 'Can I just muck now?'
Villian's friend:
'No - thats dubm. He hasn't bet anything this
whole hand. We all know you raised with that ace pre-flop, you should bet.'

Hero: 'Yeah.....'

<<Hero throws his cards in the muck pile.>>
<<Villian looks disguested and tables 89s.>>

Villian: 'how did you know I had a good hand?!?!?!?'

Hero: 'I don't know...but pass me an Oreo?'

12-11-2005 06:32 PM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I once played in a home-game where if you wanted to check-raise, you had to declare "check-raise" instead of just checking; otherwise it would be considered a string bet.

[/ QUOTE ]

Thats friggin' hilarious dude. Kinda adds an entirely new set of psycological mind games to play.

Player 1 announces 'check-raise'
I bet
Player 1 raises - to my surprise
I announce that I'm happy he followed through on his promise, and I re-raise there and on every street

On flop/turn/river when he folds I show my 9 high.

Better yet:

Floppage: A 8 8
Villian: 'check-raise'
Hero: 'uh...check behind ya dude.'

Turn: 2
Villian: 'check-raise again'
Hero: 'uh....checking it again right back to ya'

River: 5
Villian: 'Might as well try again...check-raise'
Hero: 'Can I just muck now?'
Villian's friend:
'No - thats dubm. He hasn't bet anything this
whole hand. We all know you raised with that ace pre-flop, you should bet.'

Hero: 'Yeah.....'

<<Hero throws his cards in the muck pile.>>
<<Villian looks disguested and tables 89s.>>

Villian: 'how did you know I had a good hand?!?!?!?'

Hero: 'I don't know...but pass me an Oreo?'

[/ QUOTE ]

Villain in this hand is my favorite thus far.

12-12-2005 08:32 AM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
Declaring checkraise for a free card ... pokerstrategy evolving !! ... kinda cool :-)

ChrisAJ 12-12-2005 11:26 AM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
Aw, come on. Side pots are just too hard to figure out.

Munga30 12-12-2005 05:03 PM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
I played in a limit game where you had to "bet the raise". Every hand starts out as a $0.25-$2 bet. If you raise, that raises the lower limit of the spread, until you got above $2, at which point it's fixed limit.

As an example. I raise preflop to $1 and get 4 callers. I bet $1 on the flop and there's a raise to $3. Now my options are to call $3 or raise to $6. If I raise and get called, I can only check or bet $6 on the next round.

Here's the kicker: you could not check-raise or sandbag (call then raise on the same round).

12-12-2005 05:06 PM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I've played a NL home cash game where, if you have chips in front of you, you have to declare that you're leaving a half-hour in advance.

It's not as dumb as no side pots, but it's still pretty dumb.

[/ QUOTE ]

This isn't even dumb if you play with a bunch of asses who win one big pot and then leave. I don't see where this is a bad thing at all.

[/ QUOTE ]

No, and in fact, this is a pretty standard rule at a lot of home games, I think, including ones I play in. It's a good defense against the hit and run, and a simple courtesy to everyone else at the game. At a casino or online you can get away with this, but a friendly home game there's just no need.

[/ QUOTE ]

I totally agree. At my games, I have a "can not cash out until you played at least 4 hours" rule to prevent the hit and run. Even then, my players state they will leave at a certain time.

Yarney 12-12-2005 07:20 PM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
This is pretty much common at all of the home games I go to. Its not overly enforced, but no one leaves without anouncing it at least one round of hands in advance. Even then you might be given a hard time if you hadn't mentioned you were planning to leave early in advance.

Its not like players are coming in, so whenever a player leaves early it hurts the game.

-Yarney

Snarf 12-12-2005 08:12 PM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 


[/ QUOTE ]Villain in this hand is my favorite thus far.

[/ QUOTE ]

Very true...he did get me to muck without even trying for a showdown or ever betting...

God why am I such a donkey?

onthebutton 12-13-2005 04:54 PM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Also... I've seen heads up chip leaders offer their opponent the victory if they strip. (when chip leader is a guy and opponent is female.)

[/ QUOTE ]

+EV.

Alchemist 12-15-2005 05:00 PM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
This doesn't rival some of the retarded rules earlier in the thread but I'll relate it anyway.

We're about midway into my buddy's home tournament. It's my first time playing there but he's hosted several before that. I'm in late position and pick up QQ. Naturally there are about 4-5 people to the flop. Flop is all rags and the SB on a short stack goes all in. Someone else calls so I raise all-in over the top to try and isolate (I think there was someone still to act behind me).

Host is at the table and tells me I can't do that. I look at him and tell him "I sure as hell can, why not?". He says "Well, when there's an all-in, we kind of like to turn the hands over and deal out the cards and see who wins." I tell him I don't want to go up against 3-4 opponents, just heads-up with the short stack but whatever...any other rules I should be aware of? So I end up just calling and fortunately my hand holds up. I'm not sure how we would have worked it out if one of the other hands won.

Snarf 12-15-2005 05:36 PM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Host is at the table and tells me I can't do that. I look at him and tell him "I sure as hell can, why not?". He says "Well, when there's an all-in, we kind of like to turn the hands over and deal out the cards and see who wins." [ QUOTE ]




I think I woulda said something like...'thats funny...'cuz I kinda like to play real poker and then see who wins.'

reecelights 12-16-2005 03:21 AM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
Fundraiser tourney for the local basketball team: 14 players on two tables.

Blinds are posted on the table: we start with 3250 in chips, 50/100 blinds (32.5 BB). Levels of 15 minutes big blinds of 100, 200, 400, 600, 800, 1500, 2000, 3000.

After hand number 1, dealer at the other table (who invented the structure) shouts "Bust Out, Blinds up." Blinds go to 100/200 on hand 2.

When questioned about the logic in this decision: "We thought there were going to be 30 people here tonight, and we didn't want this to go until 3 in the morning."

So with about 75% of the field remaining, the big blind was going to be 3000. Almost the starting stack.

tubalkain 12-16-2005 03:28 AM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
Cards speak, unless you miscall your own hand. Penalty is dead hand. Subsequent miscalls result in time away from the table.

12-16-2005 03:44 AM

Re: Dumbest home game rule ever?
 
[ QUOTE ]
This isn't even dumb if you play with a bunch of asses who win one big pot and then leave. I don't see where this is a bad thing at all.

[/ QUOTE ]

He must've been one of those asses...


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