Re: strange hand against mike l. 20/40
 

fu i'm still 30 for three more weeks.

Re: strange hand against mike l. 20/40
 

outstanding read.

Re: strange hand against mike l. 20/40
 

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I think I'm getting checkraised a lot of the time by mike l., and furthermore I won't even know what it means. He's in perfect position to shut MP2 out for 2 cold on the flop, and the pot is 5BB before the flop is even dealt so it's worth him checkraising both an A and a hand worse than mine.

If I'm ahead, there isn't much danger in giving a free card really. Hands like QJ and JT only have 2 outs. If I'm behind, I'd love a free shot at a 4-outer or 6-outer.

And lastly, though this is in no way the primary reason, I shouldn't always be continuation-betting flops like this with hands like KK when playing against a 2+2er/TAG like mike l.

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Wow mike apparently your play is making guys mortified of what you might do. Nice work.

Re: strange hand against mike l. 20/40
 

If you bet on the flop and there is a raiser, can you honestly think your hand is still ahead? Wouldn't it be best to see where things are now? What value do you think you are going to get later on if you bet out with kings on? Someone may call with "QJ," "QK" or "K10" if you bet out on the turn, but those are basically your three ideal hands in this spot. They will most likely call you on the flop with those hands anyway.

The "Q" on the turn puts you in trouble, so at this point, I say check.

I don't raise on the river. Only conceivable hand here that you can beat is "QK." And QK is betting on the turn. Best to just call, fold to a raise.

Argun

Re: strange hand against mike l. 20/40
 

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Duh, 3 pair.

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you know, you laugh, but in my experience people with counterfeited hands that nonetheless look very nice often make really bad river decisions.

i don't think the OP meant this. i don't think mike pays off with this hand. I only mention it because I find it interesting.

-eric

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Re: strange hand against mike l. 20/40
 

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Only conceivable hand here that you can beat is "QK."

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I'm chopping with KQ.

Re: strange hand against mike l. 20/40
 

might want to edit your post.. FAST!

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Mike folded AT, and MP2 rolled AQ. The 2+2ers lost the minimum, and the fish won the minimum. Nice hands? Uh...

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Mike folded AT, and MP2 rolled AQ. The 2+2ers lost the minimum, and the fish won the minimum. Nice hands? Uh...

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That doesn't mean you played it well.