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lefty rosen 10-02-2005 04:50 AM

Any reason why Party 3/6 is tighter than 5/10 short?
 
This is bizarre. Unless the winning 1/2 rocks have moved up and there aren't enough donaters to go around? [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

10-02-2005 05:43 AM

Re: Any reason why Party 3/6 is tighter than 5/10 short?
 
Most of the guys I play with have a VP of about 30-50. Is 5-10 sh really THAT loose?

Transference 10-02-2005 06:20 AM

Re: Any reason why Party 3/6 is tighter than 5/10 short?
 
Sure theres a reason, your sample size is too small.

cookie 10-02-2005 09:00 AM

Re: Any reason why Party 3/6 is tighter than 5/10 short?
 
It isnt...

I dropped down from 5/10 to 3/6 and to me it looks way softer...

The Truth 10-02-2005 09:04 AM

Re: Any reason why Party 3/6 is tighter than 5/10 short?
 
Blind structure. 3-6 SHOULD play tighter than 5-10, and 5-10 SHOULD play tighter than 10-20, and 10 SHOULD play tighter than 15-30.

I dont know if that is the case, but that is the theory.

-blake

10-02-2005 09:13 AM

Re: Any reason why Party 3/6 is tighter than 5/10 short?
 
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Blind structure. 3-6 SHOULD play tighter than 5-10, and 5-10 SHOULD play tighter than 10-20, and 10 SHOULD play tighter than 15-30.

I dont know if that is the case, but that is the theory.

-blake

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Not so sure about that. Only the good players know how to play the blinds correctly; and as you move down, you will see less good players. According to your theory, 1/2 and 10/20 should play with the same tightness. We know that's not the case.

I think OP has just come across some bad 3/6 games and is basing his opinion on that over the short haul.

It would be interesting, however, to see Party change the 3/6 and 5/10 blind structures to $2/$3 and $3/$5 respectively.

MoDOH 10-02-2005 09:16 AM

Re: Any reason why Party 3/6 is tighter than 5/10 short?
 
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It would be interesting, however, to see Party change the 3/6 and 5/10 blind structures to $2/$3 and $3/$5 respectively.

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Now wouldn´t that be swell...

The Truth 10-02-2005 09:25 AM

Re: Any reason why Party 3/6 is tighter than 5/10 short?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Blind structure. 3-6 SHOULD play tighter than 5-10, and 5-10 SHOULD play tighter than 10-20, and 10 SHOULD play tighter than 15-30.

I dont know if that is the case, but that is the theory.

-blake

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Not so sure about that. Only the good players know how to play the blinds correctly; and as you move down, you will see less good players. According to your theory, 1/2 and 10/20 should play with the same tightness. We know that's not the case.

I think OP has just come across some bad 3/6 games and is basing his opinion on that over the short haul.

It would be interesting, however, to see Party change the 3/6 and 5/10 blind structures to $2/$3 and $3/$5 respectively.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree that it doesn't work out this way (which is good).

Evan 10-02-2005 09:25 AM

Re: Any reason why Party 3/6 is tighter than 5/10 short?
 
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It would be interesting, however, to see Party change the 3/6 and 5/10 blind structures to $2/$3 and $3/$5 respectively.

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Or just 1.50/3 and 2.50/5.

10-02-2005 09:35 AM

Re: Any reason why Party 3/6 is tighter than 5/10 short?
 
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Or just 1.50/3 and 2.50/5.

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Good point Evan. They don't make the blinds $7/$10 in 10/20.

Now, that I'm thinking about it, it makes no sense whatsoever. In B&M, making change slows the game down, but online, that's not a problem. Even weirder....The 15/30 Omaha H/L Party game has a blind structure of $7/$15. I wonder why.

ArturiusX 10-02-2005 10:43 AM

Re: Any reason why Party 3/6 is tighter than 5/10 short?
 
A lot of weak-tights play 3/6, but theres plenty of donating lags. Look harder, play at better times. Its better then 5/10, if not only slightly.

B Dids 10-02-2005 10:56 AM

Re: Any reason why Party 3/6 is tighter than 5/10 short?
 
Yesteday every table I played at had somebody who was like 70/35 and at least one other with a VPIP over 50.

The 3/6 (at least SH) is crazy soft. I haven't played much 5/10, but from what I hear, it's not softer...

waffle 10-02-2005 11:00 AM

Re: Any reason why Party 3/6 is tighter than 5/10 short?
 
In my datamined DB, the average 3/6 6m vpip is 37, and the average 5/10 6m vpip is 37.5. I'd tell ya the median, but PT won't let me find it easily.

10-02-2005 12:19 PM

Re: Any reason why Party 3/6 is tighter than 5/10 short?
 
[ QUOTE ]
This is bizarre. Unless the winning 1/2 rocks have moved up and there aren't enough donaters to go around? [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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I'm hitting the 3/6, 5/10 bubble with my bankroll and I can confidently say (using PokerEdge) that 3/6 is significantly looser. It's not uncommon to find a 3/6 table with no TAGs (maybe mice, but not tags). At 5/10, you're typically going to have to share a table with another TAG.

Hard to imagine trying to play 10/20. Seems like you'd get to apoint where you've got 3-4 TAGs feeding on one or two fish. I suppose it'll all become clear if/when I get there.

RunDownHouse 10-02-2005 12:27 PM

Re: Any reason why Party 3/6 is tighter than 5/10 short?
 
ckessel,

Please stop sitting to my left.

Thank you,
RDH

Erik W 10-03-2005 02:43 PM

Re: Any reason why Party 3/6 is tighter than 5/10 short?
 
The 5/10 is definately tighter since the blind structure is 1/3 in 3/6. Just look at VPIP won't do u any good.

pyroponic 10-03-2005 04:40 PM

Re: Any reason why Party 3/6 is tighter than 5/10 short?
 
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Hard to imagine trying to play 10/20. Seems like you'd get to apoint where you've got 3-4 TAGs feeding on one or two fish. I suppose it'll all become clear if/when I get there.

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There are few fish at $10/20. You normally share a table with 3-4 TAGs, and a couple of maniacs. Typically everyone at the table is tough, despite the loose maniacs.

DMBFan23 10-03-2005 04:42 PM

Re: Any reason why Party 3/6 is tighter than 5/10 short?
 
the main difference so far between 5/10 and 10/20 IMO is not the ratio of TAGs to loose players, although 10/20 will have more TAGs - it's that the loose players are more often aggro, where at 5/10 there are a fair amount of passives.

krimson 10-03-2005 04:44 PM

Re: Any reason why Party 3/6 is tighter than 5/10 short?
 
Do you mean party 3/6 FULL is tighter than 5/10 short? If so your comparing apples to oranges. If not, your table selection sucks.

obsidian 10-03-2005 04:48 PM

Re: Any reason why Party 3/6 is tighter than 5/10 short?
 
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There are few fish at $10/20. You normally share a table with 3-4 TAGs, and a couple of maniacs. Typically everyone at the table is tough, despite the loose maniacs.

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10/20 isn't bad as long as you practice good table selection. There are quite a few LAGs and while they are tougher, they aren't unbeatable. They just know when to fold a little more (had the same one raise the turn & fold to my 3-bet 3 times last night). Passive players aren't as frequent and you will mostly be sharing the table with some other TAGs. The thing is, there are a lot of bad TAGs out there. I still manage to get 4 tables with a VPIP of 38+ in the evenings.

10-03-2005 06:04 PM

Re: Any reason why Party 3/6 is tighter than 5/10 short?
 
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I still manage to get 4 tables with a VPIP of 38+ in the evenings.

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Exactly...at 3/6 I don't settle for anything less than 40+, and it's no problem finding them.

10-03-2005 06:09 PM

Re: Any reason why Party 3/6 is tighter than 5/10 short?
 
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ckessel,

Please stop sitting to my left.

Thank you,
RDH

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Heh, we run into each other on the tables last night or something? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Had one poor fellow, every time he raised, I reraised. Maybe that was you?


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