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Perseus 10-29-2005 04:24 PM

9-3s I am a calling station
 
Party Poker 2.00/4.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(9 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (13.00 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (8.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, Button folds, Hero calls.

River: (11.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks.

Final Pot: 11.50 BB.

Cumulonimbus 10-29-2005 04:31 PM

Re: 9-3s I am a calling station
 
Check-raise the flop.

BoxLiquid 10-29-2005 04:33 PM

Re: 9-3s I am a calling station
 
I would fold on flop after seeing so many people call. You can lose later on and theres no way to protect your hand.

10-29-2005 04:39 PM

Re: 9-3s I am a calling station
 
you're fine the whole way.

check-raising the flop is an interesting idea, but i wouldn't do it because 1. it won't make anyone fold, 2. i doubt you have higher that your fair-share of pot equity, 3. it will very rarely buy you any free cards given that you are first to act.

Cumulonimbus 10-29-2005 04:49 PM

Re: 9-3s I am a calling station
 
[ QUOTE ]
you're fine the whole way.

check-raising the flop is an interesting idea, but i wouldn't do it because 1. it won't make anyone fold, 2. i doubt you have higher that your fair-share of pot equity, 3. it will very rarely buy you any free cards given that you are first to act.

[/ QUOTE ]

1. Who cares?
2. Hero has top pair. His equity is usually very good here.
3. We don't really need free cards.

We checkraise this because we expect UTG to bet, and even though a read is not given, there's a good chance UTG's cards whiffed at that weak little flop.

If 3-bet, we pretty much know we're beat, but we call with our ~5 outs with a plan to check/fold the turn UI.

GMan42 10-29-2005 09:47 PM

Re: 9-3s I am a calling station
 
Wouldn't it be more approprate here to donk-bet the flop and hope UTG raises everyone else off the pot?

10-29-2005 09:59 PM

Re: 9-3s I am a calling station
 
Definitely what Gman said IMO. You have top pair, hope the raiser is on overs and bet into him, if he has an overpair, well thats why you don't call w/ that. If he raises w/ overs trying to represent the big pair, your golden, heads up w/ the best hand.

Why is leading into the raiser a donk bet?

10-29-2005 10:01 PM

Re: 9-3s I am a calling station
 
[ QUOTE ]
Wouldn't it be more approprate here to donk-bet the flop and hope UTG raises everyone else off the pot?

[/ QUOTE ]

sorry, I'm new here - can you define "donk-bet". what is the difference between a "donk-bet" and just a regular old bet?

Borodog 10-29-2005 10:03 PM

Re: 9-3s I am a calling station
 
Is it consensus to defend the big blind with 9Xs here? Because I fold preflop.

10-29-2005 10:04 PM

Re: 9-3s I am a calling station
 
he's a calling station so WE MUST DEFEND!!!!

i would fold this too especially to UTG raise


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